Thread: New Updated Arms Code 2017

Make sure all your pipes are >762mm long tho!

I would like to know what these clowns plan on doing, if they don't think you can justify the amount of "sporting firearms" you have.

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Hello

I am writing with a query as to why the Police publication of the Arms code has been allowed to be altered to reflect requirements that are NOT law. We are now expected to answer the following questions with our license renewal as well as key wording changes to some statements.

First: On page 41 of the new firearms code it state

"A firearms licence allows the holder to have and use sporting type shotguns and rifles. A license holder may possess any number of sporting-type rifles and shotguns although you will be required to justify the number of firearms you hold when the Police inspect your security. A firearms licence is valid for ten years unless revoked or surrendered sooner"

This "justifying" is not legally required and has been added ultra vires into the guide. There is no definition of what is Justified and what is not. There is reason for this and yet it could be held against someone who is applying for a renewal. Is "because I like that one" a valid reason? My worry is that while I have a legal reason, while I am renewing the licence I do not want to be disadvantaged in my application because I do not agree with complying with a request that I am not legally required to acquiesce to.

This appears to be another example of the Police overstepping their jurisdiction and trying to write law rather than enforce it.

Secondly:The term "has been " is now "can be" in the definition of a firearm. The big problem here is ANY piece of steel or metal CAN be adapted to discharge any shot, bullet or projectile by force of explosive. In fact it does not have to be metal either. You could drill a hole in a piece of wood, fill it with powder and cap it with a projectile and ignite it. So by definition even a piece of wood falls under this description. Look around your office where you are sitting as you read this. Is there any metal tube? (Metal pen, Chair or table legs, gas struts from adjustable chairs, Plastic tubing or plumbing) Because they can be closed at one end and turned into a closed tube, these could now be considered "firearms" by that definition....Its that poorly written.

I have six centre fire guns, and use them for shooting a variety of game animals from rabbits to deer.

Phew that was hard

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Originally Posted by HNTMAD

I have six centre fire guns, and use them for shooting a variety of game animals from rabbits to deer.

Phew that was hard

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"I have..... because I want to."

Good enough?


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Originally Posted by Dougie

"I have..... because I want to."

Good enough?


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And your 80yrs old and you need to have a good time cause your not here for a long time!!

Originally Posted by HNTMAD

I have six centre fire guns, and use them for shooting a variety of game animals from rabbits to deer.

Phew that was hard

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But it won't be that easy, Why do you need six? One will do. Why do you even need them, you can buy meat at the supermarket. You aren't employed in the pest destruction business so that answer won't work. That rifle can shoot something 1k away, it is a sniper rifle and is illegal.
If the justify to Police becomes a legal requirement the reasons will to own will be set very high. A glib answer like your one won't work. Bye bye rifles.

Originally Posted by stug

But it won't be that easy, Why do you need six? One will do. Why do you even need them, you can buy meat at the supermarket. You aren't employed in the pest destruction business so that answer won't work. That rifle can shoot something 1k away, it is a sniper rifle and is illegal.
If the justify to Police becomes a legal requirement the reasons will to own will be set very high. A glib answer like your one won't work. Bye bye rifles.

Agree Stug, otherwise why would you take this route?

It looks like a step in the direction of Australia - must provide a "genuine reason" (or similar wording) for owning firearms to obtain a license. Of course anyone going through the process of legally obtaining a license goes through the process of legally joining SSAA or whatever as a "genuine reason" and it's just a waste of everyone's time.

Nice that will be an interesting reply! Oh and welcome to the forum
Please post reply if you get One!

Well I think some of the emails may have worked, I can't find the Arms Code 2017 on the Police website anymore, the Korean and Chinese 2013 are there and it states the The arms code is currently in development.

Originally Posted by stug

Well I think some of the emails may have worked, I can't find the Arms Code 2017 on the Police website anymore, the Korean and Chinese 2013 are there and it states the The arms code is currently in development.

I cannot understand why the arms code is in development - there has been no change to the law; ergo no need to change the arms code. More sneaky tactics I think - and more seeds of distrust. The top brass really need a lesson in relationship management together with "cause & effect analysis."

I've set an alert up so I'm notified via email as soon as that website changes.

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This is the only bullshit going on here.