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rambo-6mmrem not again 13-12-2024, 05:14 PM
Marty Henry Sad but I have to wonder if... 13-12-2024, 05:25 PM
Rushy Coromandel Green could very... 13-12-2024, 05:35 PM
veryfuturistic Respect to the fella who... 13-12-2024, 05:36 PM
Bradp The shooter possibly the guy... 13-12-2024, 07:34 PM
Bobba Yer possibly. Had a good chat... 13-12-2024, 08:56 PM
XR500 Latest news says the farmer... 13-12-2024, 08:11 PM
PillowDribbler Yep Stu the pig man. 13-12-2024, 08:45 PM
ZQLewis Couple of years back I went... 13-12-2024, 09:08 PM
NZBeeMan The flight tracks look like... 13-12-2024, 09:19 PM
Lauries Hut NZ herald is saying two pig... 13-12-2024, 09:22 PM
Micky Duck Not a good outcome for any... 14-12-2024, 05:01 AM
Jus Sounds like stu the pig man.. 14-12-2024, 05:54 AM
kotuku frankly -this time of year is... 14-12-2024, 09:55 AM
physeptone Combined with the time of... 14-12-2024, 11:09 AM
No.3 The book will get thrown at... 14-12-2024, 11:09 AM
physeptone The newshub report from 7... 14-12-2024, 11:19 AM
Russian 22. unless he was out shooting... 14-12-2024, 01:10 PM
Rock river arms hunter Untill the findings are... 14-12-2024, 01:15 PM
m101a1 how long will it be after... 14-12-2024, 01:46 PM
Pengy Stock being wild pigs that he... 14-12-2024, 10:14 PM
No good names left Reminds me of a farmer up... 14-12-2024, 02:00 PM
Pengy I think the term Farmer is... 14-12-2024, 10:13 PM
BSA It's still Invasion of... 15-12-2024, 06:56 AM
T.FOYE Is there a legal threshold on... 14-12-2024, 11:04 PM
grandpamac I believe that there is. My... 15-12-2024, 07:30 AM
Billymavs A pretty grim reminder of... 14-12-2024, 11:12 PM
Tahr There seems to be a theme... 15-12-2024, 07:02 AM
whanahuia My take on this for what it's... 15-12-2024, 08:31 AM
Tentman "All the pheasants ever bred... 15-12-2024, 11:07 AM
7mm tragic I understand and agree with... 15-12-2024, 12:14 PM
norsk Well. If you decide to... 15-12-2024, 10:35 PM
Tahr What I understand is that the... 15-12-2024, 11:18 PM
norsk Those two might have been... 16-12-2024, 12:06 AM
No.3 Speculating a lot there,... 16-12-2024, 08:02 AM
7mm tragic Even if they are wild... 15-12-2024, 07:37 AM
scotty that was out of towners on a... 15-12-2024, 07:55 AM
Micky Duck The local riff raff KNOW to... 15-12-2024, 10:48 AM
Jus Does anybody know for sure if... 15-12-2024, 02:38 PM
whanahuia This is under name... 15-12-2024, 05:22 PM
Rock river arms hunter whanahuia Absolutely bang... 15-12-2024, 06:44 PM
Andygr "The true measure of a... 15-12-2024, 08:17 PM
No.3 The thing with this is that... 15-12-2024, 09:07 PM
OPO On the money there No3 - esp... 15-12-2024, 09:54 PM
XR500 The H&S issue regarding... 15-12-2024, 09:56 PM
No.3 Query check on that - I know... 16-12-2024, 07:57 AM
XR500 Different workplace... 16-12-2024, 10:19 AM
ZQLewis just to point out we dont... 15-12-2024, 11:19 PM
No.3 Part of the issue is the... 16-12-2024, 03:08 PM
Rich007 This is a really sad... 16-12-2024, 09:38 PM
Husky1600#2 It is a sad situation,... 17-12-2024, 06:29 PM
Rich007 I'm told there are a few more... 17-12-2024, 07:19 PM
whanahuia And we shouldn't share them.... 18-12-2024, 08:11 AM
XR500 The guy involved had a mini... 17-12-2024, 08:12 AM
Got-ya Pig hunters tend to be... 17-12-2024, 05:59 PM
Micky Duck Just been on news indeed it... 17-12-2024, 06:32 PM
scotty Suppression orders on just... 17-12-2024, 06:47 PM
T.FOYE RNZ called him a "pig... 17-12-2024, 09:35 PM
rugerman the news was saying that it... 18-12-2024, 08:32 AM
CalibreWalker The bit that I find strange... 18-12-2024, 01:20 PM
whanahuia Im not sure they are wild... 18-12-2024, 03:38 PM
john m 265289 18-12-2024, 03:25 PM
CalibreWalker Yeah, interesting. Seems... 19-12-2024, 08:48 AM
NRT Victims Mother said of him as... 19-12-2024, 08:58 AM
Jus I feel it has to be said, in... 18-12-2024, 06:57 PM
timattalon I knew of an older farmer... 18-12-2024, 07:09 PM
vulcannz I've heard it said pigs are... 18-12-2024, 08:06 PM
whanahuia Except for cattle and deer, I... 18-12-2024, 08:01 PM
Jus Maybe not a requirement to... 18-12-2024, 08:57 PM
Tahr There is no freedom of... 19-12-2024, 09:30 PM
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich007 View Post
    This is a really sad situation. While the actions of the land owner are in no way justifiable, I can see how it ended up happening. Unfortunately there looks to be a mental health issue that wasn't addressed as well (the living with pigs).
    It is a sad situation, particularly sad in todays age that it was allowed to escalate to the point that an elderly gentleman feared for his life. Under the law, his actions may very well have been justifiable because under NZ law you are allowed to use equal and opposite force if you fear for your life, or those around you, particularly on your own property. It is now up to the court to decide if he feared for his life.
    As for mental health issues, all I've seen so far is an old guy that enjoys having live pigs on his property, bit of a recluse, but well spoken and very popular. How he decides to live or how any pigs he may have doesnt constitute a "mental health" issue - hes just different to how you and I choose to go through life. The justice system also needs to be very careful that perceived "mental health" issues dont preclude the poor guy fearing for his life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Husky1600#2 View Post
    It is a sad situation, particularly sad in todays age that it was allowed to escalate to the point that an elderly gentleman feared for his life. Under the law, his actions may very well have been justifiable because under NZ law you are allowed to use equal and opposite force if you fear for your life, or those around you, particularly on your own property. It is now up to the court to decide if he feared for his life.
    As for mental health issues, all I've seen so far is an old guy that enjoys having live pigs on his property, bit of a recluse, but well spoken and very popular. How he decides to live or how any pigs he may have doesnt constitute a "mental health" issue - hes just different to how you and I choose to go through life. The justice system also needs to be very careful that perceived "mental health" issues dont preclude the poor guy fearing for his life.
    I'm told there are a few more details to come out that aren't mine to share but come from someone who was close to the situation.

    I agree with you in that he deserved to have been treated better by the numerous poachers and I hope he gets a fair trial.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich007 View Post
    I'm told there are a few more details to come out that aren't mine to share but come from someone who was close to the situation.

    I agree with you in that he deserved to have been treated better by the numerous poachers and I hope he gets a fair trial.
    And we shouldn't share them. The thing is that this man deserves a fair trial, and part of that is an unbiased jury. It looks like most people sympathise with him, but sharing even sympathetic narratives about him, or information about the victim, might end up having a negative or unintended consequence.
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