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    Quote Originally Posted by foxhound View Post
    One offender and 4 LAVs a bit OTT??? what next drone attack
    This is not the first time that our military have been involved in a citizen type situation.
    I wasn't aware that NZ's military could be used in civilian type internal situations???? Can anyone clarify on the legality of this use????
    It seems to be sneaking into our enforcement scenes & is a scenario from " Sleeping Dogs" movie which is a bit scary for the rest of us firearm owners if things generally turned to custard,eh???? AND: where did 4x LAV's suddenly turn up from???? It's a long way from Waiouru & it would need at least 2x Hercs if they didn't break down ( again!!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by top gun View Post
    This is not the first time that our military have been involved in a citizen type situation.
    I wasn't aware that NZ's military could be used in civilian type internal situations???? Can anyone clarify on the legality of this use????
    It seems to be sneaking into our enforcement scenes & is a scenario from " Sleeping Dogs" movie which is a bit scary for the rest of us firearm owners if things generally turned to custard,eh???? AND: where did 4x LAV's suddenly turn up from???? It's a long way from Waiouru & it would need at least 2x Hercs if they didn't break down ( again!!)
    As pointed out, yes the military can legally assist civilian needs - happens all the time with SAR and Civil Defence. No, it's not like Sleeping Dogs where that was a fictional movie about a Police State. Legislation is pretty clear on when and how they can be rolled out. No it's not scary for us firearm owners if things turn to custard, because they won't. Unless you're obsessively paranoid. LAV's were based in Waiouru.

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    LAV's were based in Waiouru.
    No laws were broken, NZDF has assisted before. Not quite, NZLAV were from Linton as part of the QRF that is always on standby.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mawzer308 View Post
    No laws were broken, NZDF has assisted before. Not quite, NZLAV were from Linton as part of the QRF that is always on standby.
    Mobilised in the 2009 Napier Jan Molenaar shootings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kscott View Post
    As pointed out, yes the military can legally assist civilian needs - happens all the time with SAR and Civil Defence. No, it's not like Sleeping Dogs where that was a fictional movie about a Police State. Legislation is pretty clear on when and how they can be rolled out. No it's not scary for us firearm owners if things turn to custard, because they won't. Unless you're obsessively paranoid. LAV's were based in Waiouru.
    How did they get to Kawerau so quickly and why more than one IF there were up to 4 of them???? Bit of an overkill for one silly lad with short range 30-40m shotgun,eh??????

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    Quote Originally Posted by top gun View Post
    How did they get to Kawerau so quickly
    That'll be the 'Q' in QRF. It's the pedal on the right. Do you have a timeline of when they were requested, and when they arrived?

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    why more than one IF there were up to 4 of them????
    They don't go anywhere in smaller groups than that.

    Quote Originally Posted by top gun View Post
    Bit of an overkill for one silly lad with short range 30-40m shotgun,eh??????
    Nope. He'd just shot several AOS officers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kscott View Post
    No it's not scary for us firearm owners if things turn to custard, because they won't.
    Glad you can see into the future, because the rest of us humans out there sure as fuck can't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jexla View Post
    Glad you can see into the future, because the rest of us humans out there sure as fuck can't.
    Shutup
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    Quote Originally Posted by mawzer308 View Post
    Shutup
    You get my vote for stupidest comment of the year. Telling someone to not talk on a FORUM and not even being able to separate the TWO words you used. Large round of applause to you sir.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jexla View Post
    You get my vote for stupidest comment of the year. Telling someone to not talk on a FORUM and not even being able to separate the TWO words you used. Large round of applause to you sir.
    Thankyou very much. How about keep the topic on track rather than off on a tangent. Throughout the whole topic you've been mouthing off about firearms rights this bad for us that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mawzer308 View Post
    Thankyou very much. How about keep the topic on track rather than off on a tangent. Throughout the whole topic you've been mouthing off about firearms rights this bad for us that.
    You act like this isn't bad for us. People like you who are not willing to see what's happening and how it will effect us negatively therefore not willing to do anything about it and telling everyone who talks about it to "shutup" are the reason we will see things very rapidly decline in regards to our ownership of firearms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jexla View Post
    Glad you can see into the future, because the rest of us humans out there sure as fuck can't.
    I'm not as paranoid as others are, nor am I always looking for a conspiracy connection every 5 minutes to events.

    I tend to stop, look, think objectively. I don't think society is going to go down the shitter, with rampaging mobs on the streets and Police randomly arresting people then beating a confession out of them, with guerrilla fighters blowing up Police cars and trying to secure "freedom".
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