Thread: oh shit

There are far more anti-firearm people than pro. If any of the antis read some of the comments in this tread they truly would think that we are blood thirsty, irrational and bananas.

Originally Posted by Tahr

There are far more anti-firearm people than pro. If any of the antis read some of the comments in this tread they truly would think that we are blood thirsty, irrational and bananas.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S1QzZ15-L38

Originally Posted by Sasquatch

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S1QzZ15-L38

Yup. 'bout sums it up.

Originally Posted by Tahr

There are far more anti-firearm people than pro. If any of the antis read some of the comments in this tread they truly would think that we are blood thirsty, irrational and bananas.

The sad part is they probably right!! But I think if the police did a little better, seeing the solving burglary figures this week, then it just might help? Im not at a loss as to where the firearms are being sourced, illegally!!

Originally Posted by Maca49

The sad part is they probably right!! But I think if the police did a little better, seeing the solving burglary figures this week, then it just might help? Im not at a loss as to where the firearms are being sourced, illegally!!

A contributing factor to unsolved burgs is the fact that a lot of victims do not have accurately recorded serial number/identifiers etc on the items taken - unfortunately black flat screen TV is pretty generic and when a property is searched unless the items have been entered into the system prior to being found a lot of it cannot be returned.

Time delay is also important, unless its reported very soon (say 30 minutes max) after the event it is very hard to get a track away in an area with other members of the public around.

Offenders are very forensically savvy these days, gloves concealment etc not often fingerprints left to be taken.

There are firearms seized each day over the country, unfortunately or fortunately we live in a country where Police cannot just enter properties of interest and search them on a hunch.

Originally Posted by Smartie

A contributing factor to unsolved burgs is the fact that a lot of victims do not have accurately recorded serial number/identifiers etc on the items taken - unfortunately black flat screen TV is pretty generic and when a property is searched unless the items have been entered into the system prior to being found a lot of it cannot be returned.

Time delay is also important, unless its reported very soon (say 30 minutes max) after the event it is very hard to get a track away in an area with other members of the public around.

Offenders are very forensically savvy these days, gloves concealment etc not often fingerprints left to be taken.

There are firearms seized each day over the country, unfortunately or fortunately we live in a country where Police cannot just enter properties of interest and search them on a hunch.

When do they ever look for fingerprints in the first place to find out if any have or have not been left?

Originally Posted by Jexla

When do they ever look for fingerprints in the first place to find out if any have or have not been left?

If there has been a confirmed burglary, all the time. There is a work group that does just that as a role, don't think or expect front line to do it as its not their job as first responders. .(all regions/centers would be the same I would think)

Originally Posted by Smartie

If there has been a confirmed burglary, all the time. There is a work group that does just that as a role, don't think or expect front line to do it as its not their job as first responders. .(all regions/centers would be the same I would think)

That's absolute bullshit!!!! I have been burgled 4 times over the years & I had a nearly 99% knowledge of who the little arseholes were. I reported the first one to the Police, 2 days later a police person turned up, a wee bit late to track the stolen gear eh???
The next three my alarm scared the crap out of the hua's & they vacated with zilch & I didn't bother reporting their breaking & entering.
BUT: there are LESS reported burgularies eh???? I wonder why????

Originally Posted by top gun

That's absolute bullshit!!!! I have been burgled 4 times over the years & I had a nearly 99% knowledge of who the little arseholes were. I reported the first one to the Police, 2 days later a police person turned up, a wee bit late to track the stolen gear eh???
The next three my alarm scared the crap out of the hua's & they vacated with zilch & I didn't bother reporting their breaking & entering.
BUT: there are LESS reported burgularies eh???? I wonder why????

So the first time you got robbed, you reported and they, although a couple days later, came and took fingerprints and details etc?

But the other 3 times they didn't? Wonder if any of that had to do with not being informed about it?

Going by those rates it would agree with them doing it all the time.

Originally Posted by top gun

That's absolute bullshit!!!! I have been burgled 4 times over the years & I had a nearly 99% knowledge of who the little arseholes were. I reported the first one to the Police, 2 days later a police person turned up, a wee bit late to track the stolen gear eh???
The next three my alarm scared the crap out of the hua's & they vacated with zilch & I didn't bother reporting their breaking & entering.
BUT: there are LESS reported burgularies eh???? I wonder why????

Haha well each to there own - nearly 99%? so you didn't know who it was?

Personally we have had every burg on our farm solved and that is 6 in the last 10 years..and I was at a burgs on job within 4 minute's yesterday, where I work we have a Unit that handles the forensic side of things so whilst you are free to your opinion I have comment on my own experience which is not bullshit.

By not reporting you are not helping the issue, maybe someone else was burgled that day and your charges could have been added had it been proved, the community plays an important role - its not just up to Police.

Anyway this is way off track - I am happy that everyone is on the mend and the "good family man" is remanded in custody to face up to what he has done.