Thread: oh shit

Hopefully I'm not going to bore you all to death????
Here's my email to silly Annette:

Dear Annette King,

I heard your comments on TV yesterday evening and wondered how a person with your experience & common sense could make such a statement???. You seemed to be repeating a similar silly statement made a few months ago by the Police Assn President O'Connor which ultimately led to the TV3 fraud/police impersonation debacle!!!!!

Here is a list of some ways that non-law abiding persons access illegal firearms. ( not ALL by any means!!)

1. They follow known law abiding firearm owners from shooting ranges to their homes & steal the firearms
at their leisure.

2. They have a legitimate member of their group who has a police issued firearms licence, who then is legally
able to purchase new or used firearms in the normal manner. That person would then be breaking the
law by handing the firearm over to a non-licenced person.No new law would change that,would it???

3. Well organised criminals have contacts within the worldwide network of gangs in Asia,middle east,etc and
when shipping vessels of certain types are legitimately in NZ waters near our coastline, waterproof containers
containing ALL sorts of illegal items are dropped into the sea with a marker not able to be seen from the sea surface,
accompanied by a GPS grid location & surprise surprise some enterprising scuba divers uplift the containers!!!!

4. Well organised gangs have squeaky clean members not known to police intelligence people who have no doubt infiltrated
firearm related clubs & perhaps even the police force where access to firearm owner's details is readily available & the
exact location of many many types of firearms are waiting to be stolen using the appropriate tools to un-secure them!!!!

So there are a few methods of how criminals or people of evil intent could get access to firearms. Tightening up on the laws that apply to us LAW ABIDING firearm owners would have NO affect on these types of criminal activities, as you undoubtedly have worked out for yourself.

REMEMBER: IF FIREARMS WERE OUTLAWED TOMORROW???? CRIMINALS WOULD STILL HAVE THEM!!!!

Please try to avoid the type of "knee jerk" comments that I heard you making last night & talk about practicable methods of dealing with criminals and the use of firearms in their illegal activities.

Here's a suggestion: How about a law that DOUBLES the sentence of an offender how has used a firearm in the
commission of a crime????? THAT might serve as a deterrent????? You might need a few more prisons but if they were built in the middle of an exposed south island remote location with VERY basic amenities there might not be so many candidates for a prolonged uncomfortable stay behind bars????


Yours Sincerely,

Dave M

P.S. I don't really expect a constructive sensible reply!!!!


A few similar ones to your favourite MP wouldn't do any harm.