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According to police union boss Cahill on RNZ He said the government had already changed laws regulating gun clubs, "and they did that without a select committee hearing."
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political...f-nicole-mckee
Is this true, or is Cahill lying again? I know they have begun consultation on gun club regulations but nothing has changed as far as I'm aware.
it all read to me like one big whinge normally associated with what come out of a male cattle beast
Heard Cahill on the Mike Hoskings show, trying to put the boot into Nicole McKee about her potential relaxation of restrictions on semi auto rifles, I thought initially Cahill was some older woman by the sound of his voice!
Mr Cahill is upset because his lobby group wasn't directly included in the current consultation.
Perhaps Mr Cahill should reflect on his public statements, specifically the accuracy and truthfulness of those statements.
While he and his organisation distort the truth, cherry pick the statistics and just simply lie they don't deserve any special treatment.
you are very right Cyclops misinformation yes we are bloody unlucky some pricks onsold those revolver rifles but they were caught - but this joker paints firearm users black - importing well photos Mr Cahill what I have seen recently in photos seized by police - fire them -most of the junk pictured likely more danger to the stupid gang member pulling the trigger just photos of junk
Just a hypocrite. Helped make the consultation process as one sided as he could to suit his agenda and then cries foul when he thinks it's happening to him.
Actually no need to consult him as they know what he wants and got quite a bit of it. So why ask him again.
And wicked tricksy false as usual as it's not all about bloody semiautos if at all
Most of the public think when they hear police association that he is the spokesman for police, rather than the union mouthpiece. I think it's a misconception that suits PNHQ most of the time
And the more strident he becomes the more it souds like a personal compaign to push whatever regulations he thinks we should have, and that his views should carry the day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marty Henry
No, he is not the Police spokesman but his messaging is just driving the wegde between the hunting / shooting public and the Police deeper and wider than it should ever be. And personally attacking Nicole McKee, a duly elected people's representative, as he has done in the article is simply crossing the line. Somebody should be having a word in his ear.
Such a lying wanker
He will get the same say as any other lobby group. No more special treatment for him, which I suspect is what he's throwing a wobbly about.
Calling for the resignation of a elected MP for doing precisely what she campaigned on is totally out of line. He needs to get back in his box.
A snivelling, hand wringing piss weak civil servant.
Hypocrite
He’s like a 2yr old toddler not getting his way
Cahill knows that and is quite happy to let it happenQuote:
Originally Posted by Marty Henry
I liked Colfos response to him...Quote:
Originally Posted by csmiffy
"As a fact Police were consulted. Cahill should remember he is a union rep and not the Police Commissioner. Given the discontent following his performance during pay negotiations perhaps he should be focusing on serving the financial interests of his members while he still holds the role.
"I understand that Mr Cahill is feeling left out of the process, but he should be reassured by the fact that he, and all New Zealanders, will have an opportunity to make submissions as the four phases of firearm law reform progress through the legislative process.
"Mr Cahill's claims that we have been undertaking 'restricted consultation' and the Police Association has been 'deliberately excluded' demonstrate a paranoia ill-befitting of the organisation he represents."
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political..._rmRuZWofsMd4w
Yep the Colfos response sums up exactly what the situation is.
The Police Association is basically a Union representing noncommissioned members of the Police. It does not necessary reflect the views of its members and Cahil is now using his position as platform to try to influence the political landscape. He has no more right to be heard than any other lobby group. As he only represents noncommissioned staff he has no mandate from senior Police management.
His voice is worth nothing and carries no political weight and as such he can jump up and down all he likes but no one other than the media will take any notice of him. The media will always give him a platform as they know what his stance will be.
Yes well he maybe should reflect what it’s like to have the boot on the other foot. I felt aggrieved with the antics of the Labour govt where the Police targeted law abiding citizens and I felt powerless. Now he knows what it’s like to lose the power. It’s the police’s role to be independent and execute govt policy not make it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyclops
The best thing about this, is that for those of us who threw votes Acts way it sends a clear and loud signal that by pissing off Cahill they are doing a great job :D
Chris Cahill is a snivelling little twerp that deserves no recognition from our fraternity let alone the representative that we elected to advance our cause. I am elated that he is spitting his dummy.
You go Nichole...you the best.
Funny, I wrote quite a long e mail to Nicole when she was asking for submissions on this.
She actually e mailed me back in person, which was very surprising. I think that she has genuine hunters and shooters best wishes at heart.
She has my full support and it amuses me immensely that some slippery little weasel is having a cry about 'a lack of consultation' after what he did to us.
I also know that he is not held in high regard by the average copper. I think that the damage has been done with the lack of action on the pay negotiations.
I contact Nicole from time to time. I have also contacted other pollys with the same questions etc. She is the only one who replys thats why she gets my vote.
And that's why she'll get my vote too
I heard today that Act have put a bill into the ballot box that would give hunters a seat at the conservation table, fingers crossed it gets pulled from the box.
The little bastard that is Carhill conveniently forgets his police gave Tarrant a FAL. Police failed NZ then & registration will also fail it’s intended purpose in the future
I totally agree with what's being said here about the whining and lies being told about us.
Get this in front of your local representatives.
But be aware, I got banned for bringing up this exact subject. And I said way less than what's already been said in this thread. So tread carefully.
But I believe this needs to be discussed.
I see cahill on TV tonight stating that if Nicole McKee hadn't been representing firearms owners as a lobbyist, the law might not have been what it was and the chch attacker might not have been able to legally purchase semi auto firearms. I thought that was a bit rich considering the issues with the attacker being granted a license and the law regarding background checks for license applicants arguably not being correctly followed in that case. As suggested, very hypocritical and arguably not truthful.
We just need a reporter to ask a senior Police Officer to comment on Cahills claim of lack of consultation
Also repeated the reason for registration is police safety. Load of shit.
It should be for everybody's safety not just the rozzers if that sort of thing is valid justification
If the police fear for their safety on the job perhaps they should find another, "safer " job.
Perhaps this thread has gone far enough..... so many on here passionate about our rights or on how things should be done,but so few volunteers to prove it.
If you wanna discuss politics please stick to Facebook or join a political group.
