https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/crime...y-attacked-him
Another example of a weak judge!
https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/crime...y-attacked-him
Another example of a weak judge!
its disgusting, should have been deported immediately
This country has the weakest judges ever! You can get away with murder here it's a f*cking disgrace.
europe and the u.k are the same, if you are a "minority" you can get away with anything and everything because its persecution to arrest and charge these scum
So going home grabbing a firearm then coming back to shoot at someone that called you names is how the judge put it, "The Right Moral Framework"
Peice of shit should be deported or jailed.
Pandering to these types is why they think Western civilisation is weak.
And they're right.
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If he had managed to shoot them in the eye and kill them it would be premeditated right? He went home and got the air rifle....
You can actually literally GET AWAY with murder in New Zealand: If I were to become a professional hit man, I would do it with a car or truck every single time: track your marks movements until you have his established pattern, learn the traffic patterns around his movements, and then "arrange the crash" (blind spots, sun angles, speed, location, impact angles ect) naturally using a vehicle suited to the task at hand.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Butcher
Don't run, make sure the required result has been achieved and then call the Police, Ambo and fire mobs in, go to court and cop to being the guilty part in the crash, hang your head in shame and remorse, wear the short suspension of licence to drive and the minimal fine. Job done legally and no criminal investigation to worry about.
Wouldn't try it in any other country, but in NZ, it works fine. Pretty sure it's in the small print in the tourist information that you are allowed to come kill the locals with your vehicle in NZ with no punishment.
Steedman said Bai was a "strictly observant" Muslim and visited the mosque, a place of worship, five times a week.
Could have been a strictly observant pastafarian for all its relevance to the case in question.
Ramen to thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Ryan
Bit of a misleading headline there too, 'racially attacked' implies a bit more than just being insulted.
So if you have a disagreement with someone, you can go get tooled up, come back, and sling some lead at them. Brilliant.
You think delinquents belonging to the tangaga whenua get pampered some times? You ain't seen nothing yet. You will see more pandering to muslims misbehaving in the future. And those who protest at it will be labelled racist etc, etc. Look up 'Tommy Robinson'. NZ does follow UK trends.Quote:
Originally Posted by GravelBen
As for a space-filler worthless statement:
'Steedman said Bai was a "strictly observant" Muslim and visited the mosque, a place of worship, five times a week.
"The defendant has tried to live a good life and has the [right] moral framework."'
It is a moral framework right enough, how "right" and how "Religion of Peace"(TM) it is, one must decide for him or herself.
i just watched a youtube video showing the muslim situation in paris. basically 100's turn up, barricade streets off, bring their own security and pray in the open.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cordite
the locals cant even enter or leave their own houses , traffic comes to a standstill and there was the gendarmarie (police) just standing there letting it happen.
same thing happens in birmingham england etc.
You can't be racist against an ideology.
No matter how fucked up it is.
I hate the term racist as it is thrown at anyone and everyone for just disagreeing.
It means nothing anymore.
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what is the legal term? test case etc?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommy
we need some christians to persecute them muslims until they fall off the edge of the flat earth.
Steedman said Bai was a "strictly observant" Muslim and visited the mosque, a place of worship, five times a week.
So fucking what, you probably find most suicide bombers do as well, it doesn't make you a fine up standing member of society .
You need to sleep more.Quote:
Originally Posted by 40mm
Never gunna happen. They're locusts.Quote:
Originally Posted by 40mm
Plead persecution and refugee status get into your country and eventually demand and force their way of life onto everyone.
It's actually quite smart taking advantage of the weakness in our PC left wing society.
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haha, I guess that's already been tried. didn't get humanity very far.... now them muslims are on their own crusade. I wonder what the old crusaders would say if they saw the world now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cordite
Can I trade my sword for an AR? :XD:Quote:
Originally Posted by 40mm
Crusades were not a persecution, not done according to the Hague Convention of course, but that did not yet exist then.Quote:
Originally Posted by 40mm
The Crusaders were a legitimate military push-back reaction, and although they lost the so-called "holy land" THEY saved Europe from the Muslim military expansion of the time. Then Merkel of course later went and let one million of them in unscreened (and I am not saying all of them are terrorists --- just that too many of them are terrorist sympathisers to make it worth the risk). Her security service must all have gone home in shock that day to their wine cellars, not to emerge for a few days.
Priceless video of someone skillfully hauling Merkel over the coals. Better to watch than just read the transcript below.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgQva2Qh3DQ
Descriptionhttp://www.ukipmeps.org | http://www.ukip.org • European Parliament, Strasbourg, 13 November 2018 • Nigel Farage MEP, UK Independence Party (UKIP), President of the Europe of Freedom and Direct Democracy Group (EFDD) in the European Parliament - http://www.nigelfaragemep.co.uk @Nigel_Farage • Debate: Debate with the Chancellor of Germany, Angela Merkel, on the Future of Europe [2018/2733(RSP)]
Transcript: Well Mrs Merkel, many of my Eurosceptic colleagues have been booing you this morning but they shouldn’t be in a way because the British should be cheering you. Without you we’d never have made it over the line with Brexit and I want to thank you very much for that. And of course many of these Eurosceptic groups on the right, the center and the left will come back here after the next European Elections in huge numbers directly as a result of your immigration and asylum policy. Your ‘we can cope’ led to a huge migrant tide, indeed a stampede, that came across the Mediterranean. Young men coming from very different cultures and who were not going to integrate. Young men none of whom can qualify as being genuine refugees and I think in many ways we looked at it in the referendum and said we don’t want to be part of an increasingly German dominated European Union and we certainly don’t want to pay the price for Mrs Merkel’s errors.
And I believe having heard you today and listening to senior French politicians over the last couple of days that for us leaving the European Union is now indeed a liberation. It is a European Union that we’re now told has become an empire, a militarised European Union, an undemocratic European Union, a European Union that seeks to continually expand to the East, a European Union that launched a new Cold War against the United States, a European Union that tries to rewrite history and I think 100 years on from the Armistice we should be genuinely worried. The idea that this new militarised union is somehow a recipe for peace I suggest you all sit back and think a little bit more carefully. Maybe you should all reread history, the European project was set up to stop German domination, what you’ve seen today is a naked takeover bid. So I think Brexit becomes a necessity after this and for the rest of the countries Mrs Merkel you’ve had a long and successful career but your political decision to open up the doors unconditionally is the worst decision we’ve seen in post war politics in Europe. Is it not time for you at last to admit that you were wrong? Is it not time for you to say to German communities and many others, I’m sorry for what I’ve done to you and for the problems I’ve inflicted upon you for many decades to come? ....................
• Video: EbS (European Parliament)
Yep - while religious language and the catholic church etc was used (or abused, depending on your perspective) to popularise the crusades and motivate soldiers etc, they were fundamentally political/military rather than religious in nature and started when the Byzantine emperor asked for aid against the invading muslim Turks (Ottoman empire IIRC).Quote:
Originally Posted by Cordite
You've really got to wonder what those "religion of peace" fuckers in Burma did to piss off peaceful Buddhists that badly that they kicked the cunts out.Quote:
Originally Posted by viper
What was the Police charge ?? Whatever it was it should surely have been attempted murder. I don't understand why the Judge considered Religion or Race - there was no Hate Crime just some name calling which it appears was totally correct in it's application !!
Right then. Next time someone calls me a Pommy bstard, its game on :D
Didnt Nigle Farage. "Mr Brexit himself" scuttle off into obsurity immeadiatly after the yes vote? Only to now broadcast his veiws to the shaven headed minority via the internet?
I actually feel sorry for you pommy buggers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pengy
Your homeland is no more. Its fucked.
So we can't kick you out. You will just have to hang here and wait till the same thing happens to our country.
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Here is the UK population by religion.
Just gonna leave this here...
If you really think those buddhists are peaceful you might have a bit to learn about the world... from the stories I've heard from friends who have lived and worked in buddhist countries, the image of tolerant westernised buddhism you see portrayed in the media/hollywood is very very different to the day to day poverty-and-fear reality of the normal people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve123
I think a big part of the issue is that (like many islamic countries) their religion has become mixed into a sense of nationalism so that the hardliners see anyone with different beliefs as rejecting the national identity and therefore 'not one of them' and not deserving any rights. The Burma/Myanmar situation is also a race issue, the Rohingya people being a different ethnic group that the others want to kick out because they're different (and the other neighbouring countries don't want them either and say they should stay where they are).
Basically its a bloody mess, you get assholes in every belief system (including the ones who believe they don't have any beliefs) and things are often not as simple as they appear. Some belief systems do seem to make being an asshole more of a systematic requirement than others though, we probably agree about that.
stedman played the sympathy card -the judge bought it hook line and sinker .
had i been the judge my reply would have been
your submission is noted ..however to me it implies a young man whose thinking and habits are very clear and organised and as such the decision to go and obtain what are potentially lethal weapons to right what is basically a commonplace habit of annoyed humans ,is in itself a vast overreaction.furthermore as a NZ resident you must realise such overreactions are abhorrent,but generally the reaction is very short lived be it verbal or pereferably plain ignorance of thew abusersand their lack of couth. .therefore i find you guilty and....................
Wrong religion mate, your fucked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pengy
Kotuku, your very good post makes me think that as responsible firearms users we as a group really do need a strong organisation representing us. In a case like that which is being discussed that organisation could protest the Judges findings and use what you have written to present a summary of our position to media and Govt. How does the non firearms using public view legitimate owners when we say nothing publicly in protest.Quote:
Originally Posted by kotuku
Ditto South Africa.Quote:
Originally Posted by R93
Especially South Africa.Quote:
Originally Posted by outlander
Also France, Germany, Sweden, Denmark, Poland, hell the whole of Europe.
All about the spineless sacrificing their countries for the delusion of power.
Anyone speaking out wanting to protect their customs and rights are deemed racist.
Some cultures will just never assimilate with others. It is just a fact.
Why force it?
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we here in NZ undoughtably will be "taken over" within the next 50-100 years because our very democratic systen allows it to happen...bottom line we dont breed as fast as the "new imports" do so in time they will out number us and be able to legitamitely take over control of how things are done....they get the numbers,they get on school boards of trusties and change how things are done,what is allowed to be taught...we have seen this happening already...get up a step into local councils...go next level into parliment.... not scaremongering just stating what I see happening.
Our current judicial system is proof how weak and PC this country is.
It is only going to get worse.
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Without getting personal, is it correct what some one's just told me that your "prayer mat" faces Antarctica.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pengy
Not Poland. Years of being screwed over by the Russians, then the Germans, then the Soviets leave them understandably reluctant to tow the EU's line of uncontrolled, mass economic migration.Quote:
Originally Posted by R93
Now you are being racist and I’m offended, get out of that one without hurting me!!:D