Rifles stolen

I have been thru this with when i was changing insurance companys last year and no insurance company will cover "sporting goods" for replacement value.They wouldent even let me insure each gun seperately.
The best i could get on my hunting rifle was "depreciated value" which is they de-value the price depending on age and dont care what it is realy worth or what condition it is in.
They also wont tell you how much they depreciate it by untill a Claim is made.
When my 303 was stolen i got less than $20 dollars for it!......Cunts!!!!!
And a knife that i paid 120 bucks for two days erlier was paid out at $66 and this was after arguing with them.

Cunts the lot of em.
I wouldn't even bother if it wasn't a condition of my mortgage .

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I used to have a couple of separate policys for guns when I only had a few
When I went to add more was told it wasnt needed as covered under contents
Got them to put it in writing

When we moved banks and insurance just recently, I specified I wanted separate cover for the guns and gave them a value.
Regardless of the amount or value, once again, covered under contents, even though the value is more than $1500 for sporting goods. - got it in writing
However, the pricks then stitch us up with a Policy for the Mrs ring (or as I call it - 'what could have been my new Seadoo')... even though my guns are worth 3x as much

You can get cheap wireless alarm systems - under $1k and E cat safes for similar - thats bugger all compared to what most of us have invested in bang sticks
Even if its just in the area where you safe is, a blaring alarm is going to deter most from having to spend time with an angle grinder etc cutting into a decent safe

spanners has a good point on the safe
your friendly picks at your insurance company will also depreciate your firearms to the point that you cant replace them

FMG cover fireams up to $1500 per rifle under the contents policy but as sporting goods so not covered while hunting etc. I have individual policys for full replacement value for a few others cost is $25-$30 a year, house is alarmed and an e cat safe. Bit of a rebate on the contents premium for having an alarm.

Savage 1 - makes perfect sense in what he said,all tracks lead to the exact location of the stolen gear,everything else undisturbed.
Time to get those so called flat mates into the room.

I know how much that sucks. Had three rifles stolen a while back. It was my fault, and I'm still pissed at myself to this day - it isn't a nice feeling knowing that gang members could have my rifle thanks to me.

Lost my license for a few months, ended up getting it back after doing the test again, but I suspect the police just wanted to shut me up because they messed up big time, got the records mixed up, and put me down on record as losing my license due to "concerns about my mental or emotional well-being".

Didnt see this thread so just started another one (whoops) :)
have added in the serial numbers
http://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co.n...n-nelson-6422/

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Originally Posted by Josh

I know how much that sucks. Had three rifles stolen a while back. It was my fault, and I'm still pissed at myself to this day - it isn't a nice feeling knowing that gang members could have my rifle thanks to me.

Lost my license for a few months, ended up getting it back after doing the test again, but I suspect the police just wanted to shut me up because they messed up big time, got the records mixed up, and put me down on record as losing my license due to "concerns about my mental or emotional well-being".

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Did you get your record sorted out?
That could have serious consequeces down the track

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Originally Posted by Rushy

Police will be hell of an interested in that lot.

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Wanna bet? I know of two separate thefts where the police took 4 days to come to one incident, the other they didn't even show up and just sent him an incident report for the insurance

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Originally Posted by Pointer

Wanna bet? I know of two separate thefts where the police took 4 days to come to one incident, the other they didn't even show up and just sent him an incident report for the insurance

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Certainly I believe that for general burglar Pointer but I would have thought that the fire arms element would have piqued their interest in follow up to collect prints, DNA etc as the offenders would likely be on record.

Between these two robberies would have been 15 guns?

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Originally Posted by Pointer

Between these two robberies would have been 15 guns?

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Two threads same robbery.


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Originally Posted by Pointer

Wanna bet? I know of two separate thefts where the police took 4 days to come to one incident, the other they didn't even show up and just sent him an incident report for the insurance

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I have had a car and a jet ski stolen.
When the ski was stolen and i rung the cops i was asked if it was insured, it wasn't. So they never even came to look at the crime seen as they only had me to answer to not a multi million dollar insurance company.
When my car was stolen and used in a armed robbery 2 Ds and four uniforms turned up for a full search of the flat before i even knew the car was missing.

Apparently they turned up very smartly to this incident .

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In regards to Police not attending some burglaries, I don't think many realise how much volume of dishonesty crime is out there, how long it takes to investigate and how few officers there are. If there are no leads or areas where viable prints may be lifted then there is no reason to attend the scene so a report is taken over the phone.

In my town it is frontline staff that attend burglaries which some can't be attended during the day normally as most people are at work which just leaves late shifts for them. And because the frontline staff are responders, all it takes is any domestics, armed incident, disorders, shoplifters, pursuit etc to overtake any burglaries they would have attended put on top of that any prevention work and enquires they have to make. Burglaries are very hard to solve to top it off. I bet if there was twice as many frontline Police they would still be busy.

Ring your local station and ask how many General Duties 1st response Officers are on duty on the street covering your city at any one time, something like 1 Officer to every 5000 head of population. It sucks but that's what has happened in our current financial climate.

Pull a few off traffic.

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Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Pull a few off traffic.

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Follow the rules and don't speed ;)

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Originally Posted by Kscott

Follow the rules and don't speed ;)

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I do, clean licence here thanks :)



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Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Pull a few off traffic.

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+1

But of course traffic makes for easy targets, which makes it easy to keep the stats looking good for the bureaucrats upstairs...

Traffic makes for easy targets because dumb people keep handing over their hard earned money in fines because of basic stuff of speeding/rego/WOF's, etc.

It's shooting fish in a barrel :thumbsup:

People wouldnt have to hand over hard earned money if they didnt break the law...

Still need traffic cops, and lots of them, they're a deterrent more than anything and what deters better than losing money? Imagine the roads without them.

Good News!
Sounds like they have been found all except the AR.
Cops found when visiting/raiding some scum on a unrelated matter apparently.

That's great.

Yep,still an AR out there tho.
Hopefully if they lean on him enough he will spill the beans on where it is.

Did they say how he came into contact with these. he might of bought them thinking they were cheap guns. But then if his house needed to be raided by the coppers that says something.

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Originally Posted by Savage1

Still need traffic cops, and lots of them, they're a deterrent more than anything and what deters better than losing money? Imagine the roads without them.

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Oh yeah that would be great Can I have missiles fitted to my car for those that give me grief, I promise I'll be good and accurate with them.

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Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Good News!
Sounds like they have been found all except the AR.
Cops found when visiting/raiding some scum on a unrelated matter apparently.

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That is really excellent VC

If its all there except the AR then I'd hope they'd go down for a long time for on-selling the Cat E....

regards

Another theft of rifles today:(

"Police seek information after firearms stolen"

Hawera Police are seeking information after a burglary at a rural Okaiawa property where firearms were stolen in the early hours of this morning.

The occupants of the address were asleep when someone has entered the residence and removed a number of firearms, including a military style semi-automatic firearm.

A large quantity of ammunition and other household items were also taken.

"There are still a lot of details we are working through including how many firearms were taken and the probability that a vehicle was used.

Due to the geographical location of the burglary the person or people responsible may have gone either south through to Whanganui or north to New Plymouth," says Detective Byron Reid.

"We are concerned about the firearms falling into the wrong hands and I want to take this opportunity to remind licensed firearms owners to make sure they lock their weapons as required by law to keep them safe from burglars.

"Area canvasses are being completed and we are continuing to make inquiries in an effort to locate the firearms and the person or people responsible for taking them.

If anyone saw any suspicious activity in the Okaiawa area between 2:30am and 3:30am I urge you to contact police," says Detective Reid.

Anyone with information is asked to contact Detective Reid on (06) 215 4151.

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Still need traffic cops, and lots of them, they're a deterrent more than anything and what deters better than losing money? Imagine the roads without them.

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Bloody excellent! I'd get there faster:thumbsup:

Funny how they new were everything was hidden I would be looking closely to people who have been there

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Even worse, imagine your missus or kid hearing a noise and getting up to see what it was, and ending up confronting them.

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Originally Posted by 260rem

Funny how they new were everything was hidden I would be looking closely to people who have been there

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Er......If you are referring to Dundees post, (Sorry if you are not) there appears to be nothing "hidden" as a family, asleep were not awoken by the removal of the fire arms and ammunition. Breaking open locked firearms cabinets or ripping off wall mounted locked racks, would generally rouse some body.

From the "cut and past" of Dundee's post, the impression I received is that the stolen goods were, shall we say "unsecured" and I would expect prosecutions to follow.

I heard there was major theft in Mataura from a farm house, has there been any update on that one?

30 odd guns stolen from a couple of addresses apparently in recent weeks. Doesn't appear to be targeted thefts, more opportunist.

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Even worse, imagine your missus or kid hearing a noise and getting up to see what it was, and ending up confronting them.

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Vote for that party that want to make it OK to defend yourself (not act party, the other one). Level the playing field with crackhead burgler, let your wife check out that noise armed.