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    Question Separate Ammo Compartment in a Safe

    Hi everyone,

    I've got a safe that doesn’t include a dedicated compartment for ammunition storage. I’m considering using an ammo tin that I can padlock with a combination lock and then place inside my safe.

    Would this setup effectively create a separate compartment with its own locking mechanism? Are there any potential issues or better alternatives I should be aware of?

    Thanks for your advice!
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    Welcome to the Forum, the best advice would be to contact the Firearms Authority and be advised by them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ASap View Post
    Hi everyone,

    I've got a safe that doesn’t include a dedicated compartment for ammunition storage. I’m considering using an ammo tin that I can padlock with a combination lock and then place inside my safe.

    Would this setup effectively create a separate compartment with its own locking mechanism? Are there any potential issues or better alternatives I should be aware of?

    Thanks for your advice!
    I'm pretty sure that would be fine. You don't need to have ammo tin in the safe if it's locked though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coop View Post
    I'm pretty sure that would be fine. You don't need to have ammo tin in the safe if it's locked though.
    Just redone my fal cant have both keys together so I use combo padlock on ammo tin/ safe problem solved vettor HAPPY

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    Quote Originally Posted by m101a1 View Post
    Just redone my fal cant have both keys together
    What does that mean!? I keep my gun safe and ammo box keys together, but on my person all the time. Is that wrong? What am I supposed to do with them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MB View Post
    What does that mean!? I keep my gun safe and ammo box keys together, but on my person all the time. Is that wrong? What am I supposed to do with them?
    Yeah I got told off for having them on key ring ,suggestion was another lock box for them

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    Thanks for the reply, but WTF! What are you supposed to do with the key for the lockbox? Is this written down somewhere?

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    Quote Originally Posted by m101a1 View Post
    Just redone my fal cant have both keys together so I use combo padlock on ammo tin/ safe problem solved vettor HAPPY
    I'd be asking them where that is written in the statute or tell em they can go fuck a rolling doughnut but maybe I ain't so agreeable as other folks
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    Quote Originally Posted by MB View Post
    Thanks for the reply, but WTF! What are you supposed to do with the key for the lockbox? Is this written down somewhere?
    keep it in your prison wallet
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    Quote Originally Posted by 308 View Post
    I'd be asking them where that is written in the statute or tell em they can go fuck a rolling doughnut but maybe I ain't so agreeable as other folks
    If you had been fucked over by them for no reason then you play stupid games , 20 dollar lock is easy to shut them up , just pick ya battles less stress is best . artillery = god of war
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    Quote Originally Posted by m101a1 View Post
    just pick ya battles less stress is best
    I agree with that. Do they want you to leave the key for the ammo box in the lockbox at home when you are out of the house? Seems far riskier to me, but whatever!

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    Quote Originally Posted by m101a1 View Post
    If you had been fucked over by them for no reason then you play stupid games , 20 dollar lock is easy to shut them up , just pick ya battles less stress is best .
    yup +1
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    Quote Originally Posted by MB View Post
    I agree with that. Do they want you to leave the key for the ammo box in the lockbox at home when you are out of the house? Seems far riskier to me, but whatever!
    logic and common sense is not in their arsenal dont even try to understand ....just bend over and say thankyou very much
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    My gun safe keys are hidden at home and lockbox key from the top of the safe is on my keyring that goes with me. The safe keys are big old style so don't want them on keyring. Separate ammo safe is a combi.
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    Relevant portion of the Arms Regulations 1992 for those who are interested

    In addition to the condition in subclause (1)(b) relating to ammunition, ammu‐
    nition must be stored—
    (a) in its own secure storage container (such as a cash box or an ammunition
    box that is in secure storage or in a stout locked cupboard) that has—
    (i) a locking mechanism that has a key or combination number that
    is different from the key or combination number for the person’s
    container for firearms; or
    (ii) a padlock that has a key or combination number that is different
    from the key or combination number for the person’s container for
    firearms; or
    (b) in a lock box in a gun safe cabinet that has a different key from the key
    for the gun safe cabinet, and the key for the gun safe cabinet must be
    stored in a different place from the other key; or
    (c) if the ammunition is bulky and difficult to store in a container, in a
    locked room or storage area on the licence holder’s premises that—
    (i) is of sufficiently robust construction to prevent the theft of the
    ammunition; and
    (ii) has been inspected and approved by a member of the Police

    When renewing I had a funny experience with the ammo safe. Had a padlocked/deadbolted cupboard which I used (one may have described it as "stout"), well separate from safe. Not up to snuff, needs to be a locked container. My reckons about someone being able to abscond with a container easier than a cupboard were brushed aside. In any case I bought some ammo tins, padlocked them, and now they go in the locked cupboard. I don't really know if that was the correct application of the regulations but as @m101a1 said, no point arguing when it cost me $50 to do it their way.
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