Shopping for Gun Safe enquiry

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31-10-2022, 10:53 AM
30.06king

Shopping for Gun Safe enquiry

I'm shopping for a new Cat.A compliant safe for rifles I can not squeeze into my current safe. Limited room for placement means maximum dimensions will be H1500 x W350 - 450 x D300 mm and it could have or not have an internal safe box and / or shelf. Weight should not be silly as I will have to manoeuvre into position for wall / floor fixing.
Been looking online and a bit aghast at advertised costs. Obviously prices have inflated somewhat since buying my last safe.
Any suggestions of where to look or enquire for something in a reasonable cost bracket please ? Any info much appreciated, thanks.
31-10-2022, 12:04 PM
Mick Hunter

Have a look at trademe
31-10-2022, 01:26 PM
Eat Meater

Looks like the Stealth ACat 5 gun will fit the bill. The prices aren't too elevated since last year. I have one. Not bad.

Identify your target beyond all doubt because you never miss (right?) and I'll be missed.
05-11-2022, 05:25 PM
ocean-hunter

I just had to buy a new one, my plywood one didn't cut the mustard anymore. Called into Hamill's rotorua, grabbed a 10 gun safe for $600
05-11-2022, 05:58 PM
no1_49er

Go here https://www.police.govt.nz/advice-se...transportation
The first document, which you should download and keep a copy of is - Secure Storage Guidance for Firearms and Ammunition - a publication that tells you all of the requirements for whatever type/category of firearm you keep.
Unless it's a different category, there are circumstances which do allow wooden enclosures.
19-01-2023, 09:06 PM
30.06king

This is what I ended up getting. 7 gun safe but I'm sure I can squeeze in a couple more. Finally got it secured today.
Thanks to all here who helped with advice and info. Cheers.

https://i.postimg.cc/XNGsVg8p/20230119-164458-Copy.jpg
21-01-2023, 02:41 PM
Eat Meater

I have the 5 gun version of the same. I'll be grinding off the attachments on the door as it doesn't like scopes on the rifles

Identify your target beyond all doubt because you never miss (right?) and I'll be missed.
21-01-2023, 03:56 PM
Happy Jack

Isn't it about time manufacturers started making safes that accommodate the stated amount of rifles including scopes as it seems all the stated amounts can only be achieved without scopes.
21-01-2023, 04:31 PM
10-Ring

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Originally Posted by Happy Jack

Isn't it about time manufacturers started making safes that accommodate the stated amount of rifles including scopes as it seems all the stated amounts can only be achieved without scopes.

Yep, most 7 gun cabinets are good for only 5 rifles with a scope. 5 gun cabinets are for 3 rifles with a scope.
21-01-2023, 04:31 PM
30.06king

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Originally Posted by Eat Meater

I have the 5 gun version of the same. I'll be grinding off the attachments on the door as it doesn't like scopes on the rifles

Identify your target beyond all doubt because you never miss (right?) and I'll be missed.

I store my rifles barrel down due to oiled bores and I don't find the door attachments a problem. Still, i don't need then and would rather not have them. I'll see what happens but may end up removing them just as you plan to do.
21-01-2023, 04:33 PM
30.06king

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Originally Posted by Happy Jack

Isn't it about time manufacturers started making safes that accommodate the stated amount of rifles including scopes as it seems all the stated amounts can only be achieved without scopes.

I know what you mean, and agree. By storing scoped rifles barrel down I'm pretty sure nine rifles will fit into this safe.
21-01-2023, 07:59 PM
Micky Duck

top n tail them...some up,some down....definately fit more in that way.
21-01-2023, 09:02 PM
30.06king

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Originally Posted by Micky Duck

top n tail them...some up,some down....definately fit more in that way.

Used to do that. With oiled bore and barrel up would get oil running back into the action and / or bolt lug seats. So went all barrel down. Probably should use less oil but it sure protects the bores.
21-01-2023, 09:09 PM
cambo

TSB Living do a couple of different sized safes.
I got an 11cap which really only holds 5 scoped rifles.

https://www.tsbliving.co.nz/search?t...uct&q=Gun+safe
21-01-2023, 11:04 PM
Quackers

Got the same safe .lined it with marine carpet so not to.scratch the guns.well.made safe
I throw some silica beads in when we get them from work in packaging for the moisture protection.

When I bought it the guy at the shop said take the back off and tighten all the screws in behind..as if something comes loose I. The back assembly you will never open it u less you cut it open. I did what he said .seemed ok
21-01-2023, 11:42 PM
30.06king

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quackers

Got the same safe .lined it with marine carpet so not to.scratch the guns.well.made safe
I throw some silica beads in when we get them from work in packaging for the moisture protection.

When I bought it the guy at the shop said take the back off and tighten all the screws in behind..as if something comes loose I. The back assembly you will never open it u less you cut it open. I did what he said .seemed ok

Actually checking screws inside the door is probably a good idea. When I first tried thr door lock I could retract the key after unlocking. Now however when unlocked the lock holds the key firmly and no amount of wiggling allows it to come free. I think I'll do as you suggest. Thanks for your post on that.
23-01-2023, 07:09 AM
30.06king

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Originally Posted by 30.06king

Actually checking screws inside the door is probably a good idea. When I first tried thr door lock I could retract the key after unlocking. Now however when unlocked the lock holds the key firmly and no amount of wiggling allows it to come free. I think I'll do as you suggest. Thanks for your post on that.

Well, took the door panel off yesterday and had a look inside. All the small bolts were nylock types that all felt quite snug so no additional tightening required. Meant to take a pic to post here, but bloody forgot...!! Anyway, felt reassured for having done it. Still couldn't get the key to come free from the unlocked door so have to live with that I guess.
23-01-2023, 07:40 AM
no1_49er

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Originally Posted by 30.06king

Still couldn't get the key to come free from the unlocked door so have to live with that I guess.

I'm not familiar with the type of security cabinet, or its locking mechanism, that you have.
I can say though that one of the ones I have uses a "captive key" system in which you can not remove the key unless the latch is actually locked, which ensures that you can not walk away from the cabinet with your key/s leaving it unlocked. Not an unreasonable "feature".
23-01-2023, 08:56 AM
308

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Originally Posted by no1_49er

I'm not familiar with the type of security cabinet, or its locking mechanism, that you have.
I can say though that one of the ones I have uses a "captive key" system in which you can not remove the key unless the latch is actually locked, which ensures that you can not walk away from the cabinet with your key/s leaving it unlocked. Not an unreasonable "feature".

The safe I just sold was the same, I thought it was made that way on purpose
23-01-2023, 09:30 AM
30.06king

Yep, the way you guys explain it I can see the logic in that feature but I still wish I could extract the key. The safe is positioned into a corner and I cannot open the door to full extent with the rather long protruding key hitting the adjacent wall which also stops the door from quite fully opening. I can live with it but as a potential plan B am thinking I might visit my mechanical mate with welding gear and ask if he can chop a bit of length off the key and reattach the head. Might be the way around this.