Thread: Springer Airguns & Pigs

New generation lot, another go at airguns. For long as I remember since childhood, this topic about air rifles always pops up now and then.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/...gs-with-airgun

Originally Posted by Slug

New generation lot, another go at airguns. For long as I remember since childhood, this topic about air rifles always pops up now and then.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/...gs-with-airgun

Uh-oh..

I don't think they are wrong about their ability. The one I got for my 10th birthday which would, new, shoot through both sides of a baked beans can and deal death to any sparrow or blackbird, was unlikely to kill a pig but yes, could cause a significant injury, like loss of an eye. What a great learning rifle for a kid tho!! that's what I would hate to see stopped. Not sure any 10 yr old should be wandering around their urban back yard with a 22 calibre Springer, or even a .177, at the higher velocities they are now available at - if of course they had the strength to crank them. PCPs are already well controlled I believe.

you are right Jhon where is this going thats the point

Wait till they test a broadhead fired from a crossbow or bow......

All the hoodrats roam with knives these days anyway.

This is a good example of why NZ went away from universal registration in the first place and concentrated on licencing the users first and foremost. The simple fact that people who make these blindingly obvious statements after performing "research" miss is that as far as animals go, ones that carry their weight on two legs are all other things being equal a lot more lightly built than those on four legs. That makes people a lot more affected by impact from projectiles than the equivalent four legger, and one the flip side of that if we want a tool to be effective on animals with four legs it's going to work great on more lightly built specimens.

Originally Posted by Slug

New generation lot, another go at airguns. For long as I remember since childhood, this topic about air rifles always pops up now and then.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/...gs-with-airgun

this is scary stuff - I wonder who instigated the study - who is driving and funding this ??- and to what aim ??? - where is it going ??? is this the anti gun lobby or what

I am tring to work out how they got 10inches of penetration in a pigs chest??? most shoulder/ribs are no more than 2inches through...1" at most if behind leg.
interesting they talking deliberate shooting of humans..this is nothing new at all and yes a stick propelled by a string will out penertrate air rifle by country mile...and new there is even a hybrid "thing" out there using slingshot rubber in a crude crossbow crossed with spear gun set up,fires everything from small pebbles right up to knife with gut hook notch used to hook onto the sling sort of like a F14 being lauched off aircraft carrier.

10.6cm is a little over 4"

10.cm penetration into the chest cavity sounds to me like they used piglets "thru the wall & into some organs". Slightly hyped or out of context but still a very valid concern I think.
When I was at school I had some mates that would go out with full face helmets and have war games, shooting each other. Back then the springers were very low power and wouldn't even penetrate both sides of a coke can at a few metres, But I was still too chicken/smart to join in that game.

Originally Posted by techno retard

10.6cm is a little over 4"

correct...but after the first 2" you are into the lungs etc which is more of less a resistance less cavity till exit the other side.

slingshot rifle is the thing I was refering to earlier....interesting to say the least.

Ok the Poms probably have done it right.
In the Uk air rifles are way more popular & always have been, basically the only opportunity Joe Blogs has to shoot; with many competitive popular events Field Trophy etc. They have limited their air guns to 12 foot pounds without a license, which is pretty much where accuracy is premium, they blow me away hunting, shooting bunnies at 50 meters, you have to be able to hit a 20 cent piece to achieve that. Not sure? but I think you are allow a PCP also as long as its 12 ftp or less & PCP have awesome accuracy.

The air rifle I used as a kid BSA mercury only put out 6 -7 ftps & we always wanted more, the springers of today can achieve 20 ftps but more often than not accuracy is rubbish. Springers require a lot of skill to shoot well, at 20ftps they destroy scopes, which is great for sales. The air rifles they are selling are also rubbish unless you spend to $, sign of the times I guess sales/sales/sales.
Well theirs my 20 cents worth

I wonder what the injury and death statistics are like for children involved in Equestrian events? Probably stratospheric in comparison to how many serious injuries caused by the hundreds of thousands of air rifles in New Zealand over the last 150 years.

As shooters we really need to push for tighter restrictions on Horses.

Good God!

NZHIS data indicated that as a result of horse-related injuries 5613 people were hospitalised between 1993 and 2001 and there were 16 fatalities between 1993 and 1999. Horse-related injuries were most prevalent in young females aged 10 to 19 years. Among Maori (the indigenous people of New Zealand), men predominated in horse-related injury numbers. Overall, half of equestrian injuries occurred in those under the age of 19 years.

Chris Cahill! The children need you!

8 years and 16 fatalities,either we need to reduce the number of horses in private hands or drastically restrict access to them. Who needs a Horse anyhow?

https://madbarn.com/research/equestr...nd-experience/