Thread: Submission to Parliment

New Zealand Parliament - Inquiry into issues relating to the illegal possession of firearms in New Zealand

Oh man that's scarey to read. It basically says We (the law) have no idea how to manage criminals and we're open to any ideas.

How about.... making mandatory castration a punishment for not having a licence? Why not just have it added to your drivers licence to piggy back onto that system. The cops use that all the time so it wouldn't be too hard.

What changes, if any, to the current situation might further restrict the flow of firearms to criminals, gangs, and those who do not have a licence.

FFS here we go

Police actually prosecuting people who break the law might be a good bloody start...

I will be writing in mine, that whatever they are planning to do, don't do it, and with the money, time and resources spared, invest it into setting up a task force or whatever to investigate burglaries where firearms are taken and to find out who is involved in the illegal trade and go after them through police work. Give them the resources to do it rather than introducing dumb knee jerk legislation that will erode the shooting sports further and not solve the problem.

Also I want to see illegal gun dealers destroyed so badly it makes the offence not worth committing. Create a specific offense around the lines of conspiracy to supply firearms to an organised criminal group. Give them a mandatory minimum sentence for each firearm supplied, and convict them as an accessory for every offense with a firearm that can be traced back to them.

And if you supply 100 guns illegally and get 100 years in prison, we'll that's just too fucking bad for you.

Originally Posted by Beavis

Also I want to see illegal gun dealers destroyed so badly it makes the offence not worth committing. Create a specific offense around the lines of conspiracy to supply, deliberately, firearms to an organised criminal group. Give them a mandatory minimum sentence for each firearm supplied, and convict them as an accessory for every offense with a firearm that can be traced back to them.

And if you supply 100 guns illegally and get 100 years in prison, we'll that's just too fucking bad for you.

Totally Agreed, just added one wee word though to prevent being charged if your guns are stolen by an "organised criminal group or organisation"

Originally Posted by Beavis

Also I want to see illegal gun dealers destroyed so badly it makes the offence not worth committing. Create a specific offense around the lines of conspiracy to supply firearms to an organised criminal group. Give them a mandatory minimum sentence for each firearm supplied, and convict them as an accessory for every offense with a firearm that can be traced back to them.

And if you supply 100 guns illegally and get 100 years in prison, we'll that's just too fucking bad for you.

I like it but I put money on it some bugger that gets 100 years and croaks while doing it demands that their ashes get kept in that cell, fed and watered for the length of their sentence just because that's what they are entitled to.

Or just flushed?

The last write up I saw was some guy in New Plymouth getting 60 hours PD for illegally possessing a 303 rifle and shotgun ammo. Cunt reckond he "found" it. It's no wonder the scum aren't worried if plod is too busy snoozing under a bridge with a radar gun than investigating real crime.

I encourage all our members to make a written submission.
Here's a chance to attempt to have some persuasion over possible outcomes for honest, compliant and licenced folk.
5000 odd submissions from the members of this forum alone would be a huge windfall of objective and informed perspective on the matter, hopefully keeping the focus on the issue of gun crime and possession of illegal firearms.

We should go as a group with one good submission pm to all and individually sent?

Originally Posted by Steve123

The last write up I saw was some guy in New Plymouth getting 60 hours PD for illegally possessing a 303 rifle and shotgun ammo. Cunt reckond he "found" it. It's no wonder the scum aren't worried if plod is too busy snoozing under a bridge with a radar gun than investigating real crime.

Ahhh but snoozing under a bridge with a radar gun actually brings in money for the powers at be, whilst finding and prosecuting illegal firearm ownership and usage costs money. There be the difference.

Originally Posted by Maca49

We should go as a group with one good submission pm to all and individually sent?

The problem with that is they read it as one submission only. Each submission needs to be individual to count.

Thanks for the link @steven ,
That is a fairly easy process to make submission online.
Hopefully there is some level headed outcomes from the process.