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Maybe for you. But for me if they don't do at least two rifles they are crap. I don't think 16-18000 rounds is asking to much. They are getting close to the cost of a rifle themselves.
Atec is definitely louder than a Waitaki.
Waitaki quietness is irrelevant because at 700 grams it weighs over 3 times as much and it's got no place in my life
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