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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahr View Post
    I haven't a clue what can be done about it.
    It's pretty simple, choose representatives that believe in personal responsibility not mass regulation. Convince others to do the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 300CALMAN View Post
    It's pretty simple, choose representatives that believe in personal responsibility not mass regulation. Convince others to do the same.
    Personal responsibility does not not prevent the worst people doing the worst stuff. Or good people being influenced to become bad. Thats why we require a regulated society. To a greater or lesser degree depending on the context.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahr View Post
    Personal responsibility does not not prevent the worst people doing the worst stuff. Or good people being influenced to become bad. Thats why we require a regulated society. To a greater or lesser degree depending on the context.
    Take Germany and what happened in WW2. “Good people being influenced to become bad”. Very good example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahr View Post
    Personal responsibility does not not prevent the worst people doing the worst stuff. Or good people being influenced to become bad. Thats why we require a regulated society. To a greater or lesser degree depending on the context.
    People are always gonna do that - it's why we have prisons.
    God gave us the Ten Commandments which is about all society needs to run without hiccups - and I see our current political party added to them by enacting 24 new laws the other day.

    I see that guy take a swipe at another with a machete last night, taking off two fingers, then he took a swing at another. I don't know what the current laws are regarding that, I doubt they're supportive of that behaviour - in which case 'regulated society' doesn't really register with him - in which case he needs a good talking to IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SF90 View Post
    People are always gonna do that - it's why we have prisons.
    God gave us the Ten Commandments which is about all society needs to run without hiccups - and I see our current political party added to them by enacting 24 new laws the other day.

    I see that guy take a swipe at another with a machete last night, taking off two fingers, then he took a swing at another. I don't know what the current laws are regarding that, I doubt they're supportive of that behaviour - in which case 'regulated society' doesn't really register with him - in which case he needs a good talking to IMHO.
    its all well and good having laws...they are good.... but worse than useless if they are not being enforced...and in many cases enforced hard.
    thats not a swipe at the hog tied thin blue line....the whole judical system has been getting its teeth pulled one by one for many years now.
    PERSONALLY I would like to see the return of corporal punishment...the thought of being beaten with cane or tied up in stocks in main street might just make some stop and decide nope not doing that.... and if did decide to do it...would actually give the powers that be ,a tool they can use thats not a wet bus ticket.
    when a kid punches another at school and is expelled because of it........its because the school board has no other tools in the tool box any more..and the results of it are sad to watch.six of the best outside the principals office and get back to class laddie,dont do it again...worked for many many years for good reason.it still would work.
    our entire judicial system is suffering from same ,just by differing degrees.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahr View Post
    Personal responsibility does not not prevent the worst people doing the worst stuff. Or good people being influenced to become bad. Thats why we require a regulated society. To a greater or lesser degree depending on the context.
    Well Australia must be one of the most over-regulated with respect to firearms and these things still happen. Registration, different endorsements fees etc etc. Bad people still get hold of firearms.

    So keep voting for the people who want more regulation. You said you couldn't do anything but there is.

    The ultimate end for that logic is a police state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 300CALMAN View Post
    Well Australia must be one of the most over-regulated with respect to firearms and these things still happen. Registration, different endorsements fees etc etc. Bad people still get hold of firearms.

    So keep voting for the people who want more regulation. You said you couldn't do anything but there is.

    The ultimate end for that logic is a police state.
    "Thats why we require a regulated society. To a greater or lesser degree depending on the context."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahr View Post
    "Thats why we require a regulated society. To a greater or lesser degree depending on the context."
    Greater or lesser degree, Depending on who you elect. Context depends on how you read a situation ie will more rules fix the problem? But anyway you said you couldn't do anything and I have suggested something you can do.

 

 

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