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Yeah, that was just my sense of humour.Quote:
Originally Posted by OGM
I'd like to think in a perfect world that those who harbor such extreme beliefs ie in Illuminati lizards, 5G chip vaccines & other conspiracy theories would not hold firearms licenses....but as Oz showed, they can.
Lol!🤪Quote:
Originally Posted by OGM
widely embraced is stretching it a bit.....Quote:
Originally Posted by OGM
many folks including myself have gladly stepped back from most discussions of that nature, preferring to get on with life rather than feed the indulgence.
Lots of 'rabbit holes' for us to disappear down these days - and what is a 'conspiracy theorist', just someone who disagrees with authority/majority dogma - sort of like those who disagreed with Hitler.
And what exactly is 'mis-information/dis- information' .......... same really. Pretty hard to discern just who's telling you the truth - Putin, Biden, Argern, Trump ........... these people are paid by the word, and those words are designed to keep them in power.
Hate speech, free speach, anti-vaxxers - lots of wagons to hang your hat on.
Gutless to go whacking innocents though - that never changes.
I am hearing today,apparently the brothers, posted video bragging about killing the 2 LEOs .....as much as I hope that isnt true...if it indeed turns out to be so... it makes things a little more cut n dried.
Personal responsibility does not not prevent the worst people doing the worst stuff. Or good people being influenced to become bad. Thats why we require a regulated society. To a greater or lesser degree depending on the context.Quote:
Originally Posted by 300CALMAN
Take Germany and what happened in WW2. “Good people being influenced to become bad”. Very good example.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
Read a book called "Bellcat'.Its an eye opening expose of a lot of what is going on in these realms ,but also the demented shagnasties running these CT worlds.
Hence why I treat a lot of ‘information’ from the media with a fair dose of scepticism.Quote:
Originally Posted by muzza
As a observation it seems like members of a certain demographic or community are being persecuted/,labeled by others cause of the actions of a few( y know, one end of the bell shaped curve)
Mmm makes me wonder where ive seen that before.....
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People are always gonna do that - it's why we have prisons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
God gave us the Ten Commandments which is about all society needs to run without hiccups - and I see our current political party added to them by enacting 24 new laws the other day.
I see that guy take a swipe at another with a machete last night, taking off two fingers, then he took a swing at another. I don't know what the current laws are regarding that, I doubt they're supportive of that behaviour - in which case 'regulated society' doesn't really register with him - in which case he needs a good talking to IMHO.
Stopping police from car chases is amongst one of the most retarded this government has done. Because of the lack of deterrents shitheads behavior is getting worse.
In our society today there are so many influences on people, which to whatever degree, people buy into.
The pressures involved in money when you're in debt. Work pressures, familial pressure. Lack of down time etc all take a toll on you mentally.
Then when you take in any sort of substance abuse could possibly be a large contributing factor.
There's just so much about this incident that isn't known, and probably never will be. It's just sad that these young officers have paid for it with their lives.
Unfortunately, that risk just goes with that job.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/480...ol-resignation
If this report is accurate then certainly there were warnings
its all well and good having laws...they are good.... but worse than useless if they are not being enforced...and in many cases enforced hard.Quote:
Originally Posted by SF90
thats not a swipe at the hog tied thin blue line....the whole judical system has been getting its teeth pulled one by one for many years now.
PERSONALLY I would like to see the return of corporal punishment...the thought of being beaten with cane or tied up in stocks in main street might just make some stop and decide nope not doing that.... and if did decide to do it...would actually give the powers that be ,a tool they can use thats not a wet bus ticket.
when a kid punches another at school and is expelled because of it........its because the school board has no other tools in the tool box any more..and the results of it are sad to watch.six of the best outside the principals office and get back to class laddie,dont do it again...worked for many many years for good reason.it still would work.
our entire judicial system is suffering from same ,just by differing degrees.
the first 10.......thats a pretty good guideline to live by and look at the written laws of most countries and those 10 are echoed . black n white..keep it simple.Quote:
Originally Posted by OGM
Could we give the religion a rest please
Christianity makes me queasy
The guy mentioned "God gave us the 10 commandments" Where do you think that comes from? It's Judeo-Christianity at the very least...Quote:
Originally Posted by OGM
Guilty - got it from the most popular book on the planet ................
We used to talk about that sort of stuff, even used to abide by some of it - was part of who we were ...................... but that was a while bac :oh noes:
Guys take caution. You are straying over a forum “line in the sand”with this.
Cheers Rushy, but far as I know that's where our first laws came from - and if that makes people queasy .................. fucked if I know ?
Oh shit - think I just crossed the second line ..............:oh noes:
Mate on a personal level I don’t care what people discuss on here but the forum has only two rules (no politics and no religion) and so I was just making mention that others on here are likely to take exception.Quote:
Originally Posted by SF90
yes Rushy but as we both know.... the 2nd is rigidly enforced and the 1st not so much...and you are OK TO BASH religion or post jokes taking the piss out of it but not have a civil discussion about it...or even mention,in this case a reference to the good book which has much relevance to topic at hand...
hypocrisy at its finest.
I could just as well say this is politics........ feel free to disagree but the reference to govt is no more/no less than what is in other camp.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve123
we straying way off topic
the police are dead..some reports are saying they were wounded,then walked up to and shot at close range/executed
there are other reports they posted/boasted online about doing this
there are reports one brother crossed borders during lockdown carrying many weapons and police were informed about this.... that was a rather shocking article.. off to side to last one linked above.
and I agree with you steve 100%
MD I plead “No contest” to probing boundaries and crossing lines myself. As to religion, I am firmly in the corner of the faithless non believer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
I understand that, I read the rules and agreed to them before popping on board here - so no excuses.
I will say though - politics and religion fuel most of what's happening in the world as of right now - that 'right now' being an extension of the last three hundred years, so pretty hard to ignore really.
The other things fueling the world are wealth, hate, ego, personal power, dumbarses and the stripping.of sensible laws to suit personal agenda ....... and guns, of course :).
Im a firm beiever in higher powers.... winchester 748 comes to mind.
Oh, that's a bit harsh .......... at least I sit on the fence, but I have spent a good deal of time looking at both sides .............. pretty hard not to if you walk around with your eyes open IMHOQuote:
Originally Posted by Rushy
Well Australia must be one of the most over-regulated with respect to firearms and these things still happen. Registration, different endorsements fees etc etc. Bad people still get hold of firearms.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
So keep voting for the people who want more regulation. You said you couldn't do anything but there is.
The ultimate end for that logic is a police state.
Imaginary friends are for small childrenQuote:
Originally Posted by Rushy
Wh! Wha! What!! Santa isn't real???:oh noes::oh noes::oh noes:Quote:
Originally Posted by 308
"Thats why we require a regulated society. To a greater or lesser degree depending on the context."Quote:
Originally Posted by 300CALMAN
You get two people together, you get two different opinions - it's the way it is and the way it's always been.
And that's regardless of whatever regulations are in force ...............
As gunowners we're a minority, there are a lot of people out there who don't like us ............ it's the way it is.
Those 'I dare not mention' don't like us .......... we're a threat to whatever grand scheme is happening.
There are 'hangers on' who don't like us ............... "The firearm is an extension of their tiny penis's, why else would they have a gun."
It's the way it is - and it ain't gonna change.
Do I stress about it ................ Nah, I ain't as fragile as some out there.
Strict religious upbringing. Estranged from family(s). Conspiracy theorists. Anti-vaxxers. Isolated living and ...(dare I say it)
Obsessed with guns. Umm Hmm
Welcome to the fold!:D:D:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Hermitage
Greater or lesser degree, Depending on who you elect. Context depends on how you read a situation ie will more rules fix the problem? But anyway you said you couldn't do anything and I have suggested something you can do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
And the meth?
How about a headline that says "Meth heads make appalling decisions, and other people are hurt".
I dont like the sound of that, its almost as though the Police can't solve problems that hard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ross Nolan
"Firearm registration and all Police to be armed" sounds much more like they have control.