Heaps of critical thinking in this.
https://theconversation.com/firearms...-owners-243252
I especially like the blurb about how you can trust the content, as it is written by academics...... JFC - do these people ever look at themselves?
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Heaps of critical thinking in this.
https://theconversation.com/firearms...-owners-243252
I especially like the blurb about how you can trust the content, as it is written by academics...... JFC - do these people ever look at themselves?
Written by academic experts. Says it all. Probably should have said as an addendum... we have no experience in the real world.
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I was exposed to him during the 'professional development' part of my career in the Army. About as myopic as they come. Will put his spin on everything. Most probably feels jittery walking past a construction site with nail guns in operation.
Academics, politicians, and religious zealots are taboo subjects here, but they are the most dangerous of all!
Which is why open discussion should be had
Think about the long march, and clowns like that in charge of educating the next generation. That is where the real harm is done.
Which is not to say that opinion piece is anything other than rubbish.
Tui ad right there!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ross Nolan
Pompous opiniated cretin …. If you follow his “ logic” then every person owning a car should have to join a car club & sit compulsory tests every year. And as for his “unanswered” questions, the same applies to car owners & MV licenses…… how would the law prevent a license being granted to a violent extremist?? Or stop motor vehicles from being used to commit crimes??
Pretty sure the other thread about this got deleted.
I won't waste my time coming up with any considered opinion again on the subject on this forum.
Perhaps, in the interest of public safety, academics and public servants should be obliged to run their comments (written or otherwise) past a 'common sense approval committee' before publication to avoid widespread misinformation to the public. It seems to work well in the various 'Peoples Democratic Republics' that the academics like so much!
The issue with academics is they think they are experts at everything. But would you trust a lawyer for heart surgery, or a heart surgeon for your divorce settlement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ross Nolan
Show me an 'academic' in NZ that is an experts on all things firearms and I'll show you a unicorn that will give you a lapdance with a happy ending.
Chaz Forsyth possibly, but otherwise your correct and their opinions about as useful as a colour chart designed by a blind man
They certainly do walk among us.
Some of the ones I previously thought were "us" have actually turned out to be "them".
According to the link provided in point 3. of the article referenced above we should be on the lookout for 'us' vs 'them' ideology........Quote:
Originally Posted by 7mmwsm
opinions gentlemen are like mouths armpits arseholes and feet -everyone has em and some positively stink.
Those in ivory towers may not of course be aware of this as they are too immersed in their own deductive powers ,often with selective research to back it up .
Im often lead to contemplate what happens when one of these theorems rebounds to kick em straight in the sausage and two veg. Im also getting a strong vibe this bloke loves the limelight -perhas hed like to preach his wee gospel at a deerstalkers meeting /range day /COLFO meeting and see what sort of adoration he gets .
Im profess...ing to an overwhelming desire to see your arse disappearing out of my sight .preferably at very high speed.
As pointed out, NZ was warned by Aussie not to force club membership. Aussie did it thinking it would reduce the number of license holders to the level of club membership but what it actually did ws raise club membership to license holder levels...effectively unionising the firearms owners into a larger and more organised opposition.....
but the rest of the drivel in that article realy only serves to remind us how little these 'acedeamics' really know and as for the term acedeamic....most of their learning and fear seems to be education gained from hollywood movies reinforcd by mistruths from Cahill and co....which is a poor place to be educated...if you can even call it educated...
Lets be fair to the fellow, he is not Alpers.
The link points to a fair bit of behavior that would be considered to be someone who isn't going to just accept the status quo, but rather question what is and isn't right and make their own mind up.
Gosh, what a great way to discern 'fit and proper'.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Bol Tackshin
Common sense is subjective, dude.Quote:
Originally Posted by gundoc
Can you give some examples of academics who think they are experts at everything? Most I've encountered don't seem to think they're experts in anything!Quote:
Originally Posted by vulcannz
Maybe compulsory club membership would provide shooting and hunting clubs a much needed boost!Quote:
Originally Posted by kotuku
Gun Control NZ.Quote:
Originally Posted by Waitati Hunter
so says you who in a prickly fashion seems to know it all .according to research on this from across the tasman the opposite is true . furthermore as an individual in a democratic world its a given i can think for myself and make my own choices ,i don t need the state to tell me how i conduct my hobbies etc .Quote:
Originally Posted by Waitati Hunter
actually from your style of prose I suspect youre a product of a tertiary education ?????
The first thing compulsory membership of a shooting club would do would be to overload the volunteers who run clubs. Compulsory membership and compulsory attendance are two vastly different things. It may work for PNZ but for other clubs I imagine they're not equipt for vastly differing interests and don't have the resources or ability to cater for everyone. Occasional hunters would find it an imposition that adds nothing to their experience There will be exceptions of course. Tect park springs to mind
As the old saying goes, no amount of schooling can cure stupidity, and a higher education positively reinforces it.Quote:
Originally Posted by kotuku
yes siree given the state of the world at present and the calibre of the big players ,i think good man theres more than a modicum of truth in your observation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Growlybear
It appears a number of people make up Gun Control NZ, some academics with relevant expertise, while others could be better described as activists. I don't have any reason to believe any of them claim to be, or behave as if they're experts in everything.Quote:
Originally Posted by vulcannz
If you had even the slightest idea of the expertise this member has around firearms you would walk away now in shame....This one member probably knows more about firearms than any of us (yourself included...) I would go so far as say the number of Kiwis that know more than him in this field would be in the dozen or so if not less....Quote:
Originally Posted by Waitati Hunter
I hate to burst your bubble but acadeamic or not, there is not one member of GCNZ that I have heard make a comment that would imply that any of them have ANY relevant expertise...In fact if any of them had any relevent knowledge they would probably leave GCNZ as they would suddenly become so very aware of their lack of expertise....Quote:
Originally Posted by Waitati Hunter
Understatement of the year award goes to.........:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by kotuku
2nd thatQuote:
Originally Posted by timattalon
If Gun Doc says something it is worth listening to
3rd thatQuote:
Originally Posted by 308
When it comes to actual empirical knowledge about firearms and related subjects, there would be very few here if any that could be comparable.
well said Tim-one cant help but endorse your sentiments.as for Gundoc -a walking encyclopaedia of firearms and all its assorted issues .In fact has appeared as an expert witness on this very subject .Quote:
Originally Posted by timattalon
to assure the somewhat prickly individual whose POV I took issue with allow me to give you something to mull over
Tis an old dog walks the footpath
pups run on the street