Trigger locks are illegal apparently......

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12-04-2019, 04:18 PM
mjmatsen

Trigger locks are illegal apparently......

So went into ol H&S for a trigger lock... Mate, I may as well asked for a virgin to be sacrificed.... "THOSE ARE ILLEGAL! THEY AREN'T UP TO CODE!!!" Dude, it's so I can have it on when I go from place to place. when it's in a bag "IT NEEDS TO BE IN AN A-CAT SAFE AT ALL TIMES" Obviously not when I'm using it... Look, I just want a trigger lock, I know you guys sell them "THOSE ARE PROHIBITED AND USING THEM CAN LAND YOU IN JAIL" Alright mate... Ta ta..... Can we have a H&S gift card buy-back?
12-04-2019, 04:29 PM
Clint Ruin

Some h&f branches are scared of anything gun related at this time. Wonder what the next catalog will look like ?
12-04-2019, 04:37 PM
dogmatix

Morons.
12-04-2019, 04:37 PM
Cordite

Who owns Hunting & Fishing? Or is it a franchise chain?
12-04-2019, 04:40 PM
gonetropo

i have one you can have for the postage $$ . its still in the shrink wrap
12-04-2019, 04:41 PM
mjmatsen

They are a bit like the Dick's sporting goods guys in the US. To virtue signal. The guy wanted to act like he was teaching me (The problem stupid FAL holder) loud enough so everyone in the store could hear. At this point I'm not sure I'd buy anything from that store. But I'm not really the boycott type
12-04-2019, 04:45 PM
mjmatsen

Sent you a message @gonetropo
12-04-2019, 04:54 PM
bully

Is h&s suppose to be h&f as in Hunting and fishing? If so, I'm guessing you went to the Rotorua branch. ....? There is at least three other gun shops in Rotorua who didn't throw firearm owners under the bus.... Try one of them first.
12-04-2019, 04:58 PM
mjmatsen

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Originally Posted by bully

Is h&s suppose to be h&f as in Hunting and fishing? If so, I'm guessing you went to the Rotorua branch. ....? There is at least three other gun shops in Rotorua who didn't throw firearm owners under the bus.... Try one of them first.

Yes, even before all of this, they were hunting and shitting. And I see hamils took all of their displays down, and I won't go to Serious Shooters. So I'll give the others a try.
12-04-2019, 05:21 PM
Marty Henry

@Cordite they are a franchise
12-04-2019, 05:23 PM
tetawa

Thought the H&Fleesing support was out the door, some people have short memories.
12-04-2019, 05:30 PM
Cordite

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Originally Posted by mjmatsen

They are a bit like the Dick's sporting goods guys in the US. To virtue signal. The guy wanted to act like he was teaching me (The problem stupid FAL holder) loud enough so everyone in the store could hear. At this point I'm not sure I'd buy anything from that store. But I'm not really the boycott type

To be both ignorant and confident..... Now I have NEVER been like THAT prat....
12-04-2019, 05:44 PM
Bol Tackshin

You can vote with your debit card as you see fit, but I won't spend another dollar of my hard earned salary at H&F.
12-04-2019, 05:54 PM
GravelBen

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Originally Posted by Cordite

To be both ignorant and confident.....

Google the Dunning-Kruger effect if you aren't already familiar with it, its probably the rule more than the exception.
12-04-2019, 05:55 PM
Cordite

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Originally Posted by Bol Tackshin

You can vote with your debit card as you see fit, but I won't spend another dollar of my hard earned salary at H&F.

When the heat was on, I only heard David Tipple of GC standing up for the sport.
12-04-2019, 08:35 PM
tiroatedson

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Originally Posted by mjmatsen

Yes, even before all of this, they were hunting and shitting. And I see hamils took all of their displays down, and I won't go to Serious Shooters. So I'll give the others a try.

There s the Outdoorsman

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12-04-2019, 08:36 PM
tiroatedson

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Originally Posted by muzza

They wont ever get any of my money. I will support my local firearms dealer at Magnum Sports in Stratford ahead of the big chain store guys.

Taranaki folk should support the little guy too.

I like his store. Old school general store type feel about it.

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12-04-2019, 09:05 PM
40mm

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Originally Posted by gonetropo

i have one you can have for the postage $$ . its still in the shrink wrap

beat me to it mate. I keep standing on mine.... has to go.
12-04-2019, 09:20 PM
jim160

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Originally Posted by mjmatsen

So went into ol H&S for a trigger lock... Mate, I may as well asked for a virgin to be sacrificed.... "THOSE ARE ILLEGAL! THEY AREN'T UP TO CODE!!!" Dude, it's so I can have it on when I go from place to place. when it's in a bag "IT NEEDS TO BE IN AN A-CAT SAFE AT ALL TIMES" Obviously not when I'm using it... Look, I just want a trigger lock, I know you guys sell them "THOSE ARE PROHIBITED AND USING THEM CAN LAND YOU IN JAIL" Alright mate... Ta ta..... Can we have a H&S gift card buy-back?

This image suits them.
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12-04-2019, 10:26 PM
kotuku

just some weehysterical spotty herbert employed by humping 7fucking ,indictrinated by the party line and you come on here alarmist having swallowed that shit .
go bash ya swede again a strainer post ,give yasels a good uppercut and a bath in heifrer piss ,look in the mirror and go
"Really"
humping7fucking go molest yourselves you spineless wonders!
12-04-2019, 10:37 PM
gonetropo

"banned" trigger lock on its way to you tomorrow :)
12-04-2019, 10:37 PM
Cordite

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Originally Posted by kotuku

just some weehysterical spotty herbert employed by humping 7fucking ,indictrinated by the party line and you come on here alarmist having swallowed that shit .
go bash ya swede again a strainer post ,give yasels a good uppercut and a bath in heifrer piss ,look in the mirror and go
"Really"
humping7fucking go molest yourselves you spineless wonders!

On the smartphone now, yourname is too small to read, but I just knew it was you, kotuku, when I read the post. Classic!
13-04-2019, 10:07 AM
10-Ring

The general non licensed public is ignorant enough about firearms and we have hunting stores with junior muppets just as ignorant.

I've always found Adam to be a straight up guy at the Rotorua branch of H&F. Same as Brad at Hamills and Cliff and Carol at the Outdoorsman.
13-04-2019, 10:41 AM
Steve123

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Originally Posted by 10-Ring

The general non licensed public is ignorant enough about firearms and we have hunting stores with junior muppets just as ignorant.

I've always found Adam to be a straight up guy at the Rotorua branch of H&F. Same as Brad at Hamills and Cliff and Carol at the Outdoorsman.

Hamils and the Outdoorsman are great. Hunting and Polarfleece is a waste of space.

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13-04-2019, 11:04 AM
10-Ring

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Originally Posted by Steve123

Hamils and the Outdoorsman are great. Hunting and Polarfleece is a waste of space.

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Shouldn't that be Polarfleece & Fishing? :)
13-04-2019, 11:46 AM
outlander

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Originally Posted by gonetropo

i have one you can have for the postage $$ . its still in the shrink wrap

A Hunting and Fishing !?
13-04-2019, 01:14 PM
Steve123

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Originally Posted by 10-Ring

Shouldn't that be Polarfleece & Fishing? :)

I s'pose they could come in handy for trying stuff on before I buy it online

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13-04-2019, 05:25 PM
Daithi

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Originally Posted by Steve123

I s'pose they could come in handy for trying stuff on before I buy it online

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Yep, had a big parcel of clothing arrived from online yesterday, tried it all for size there first.
14-04-2019, 07:42 PM
stevodog

I'm not fussed about hunting stores. I know what I want to buy. I appreciate the value of knowledgeable staff though.
A young salesman in gun shitty was telling a dude that the 22 is sweet on rabbits out to 100m....I think he'll be disappointed
14-04-2019, 09:40 PM
gadgetman

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Originally Posted by stevodog

I'm not fussed about hunting stores. I know what I want to buy. I appreciate the value of knowledgeable staff though.
A young salesman in gun shitty was telling a dude that the 22 is sweet on rabbits out to 100m....I think he'll be disappointed

It is sweet on rabbits a little further than that.
14-04-2019, 10:25 PM
stevodog

Not for the average bear though
15-04-2019, 05:05 AM
mjmatsen

I'd say I'm the average bear and I knock them down at 100m and beyond. 4-12 scope but. Sometimes it's what you need to get the furry bastards
15-04-2019, 05:15 AM
dannyb

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Originally Posted by gadgetman

It is sweet on rabbits a little further than that.

easily
15-04-2019, 08:47 AM
gonetropo

i know as a fact i have killed bunnies at 150m with a single round.
15-04-2019, 08:59 AM
stevodog

I must be missing out on something then...have to give it a try
15-04-2019, 11:17 AM
timattalon

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Originally Posted by stevodog

I must be missing out on something then...have to give it a try

I have heard that you can use 22 to practice LR shooting at closer ranges. (308 does about 2600-2800 fps where 22 does 1300-1400fps) so your 500m drop on a 308 is similar to 250m drop on a 22. It wont be the same as the momentum of the heavier bullet and BC will affect it, but theory is if you can hit a gong at 1000 metres with a 308, the 400m with a 22 is a similar challenge.

I have pushed a 22LR out to 200 to see and has some success at 150m (I will admit there was some luck involved here as well) but the 22 is capable of hitting things at ocer 500m IF you can work out hold over etc. (From memory hold over for zero at 75m to hit a target at 500 m is something like 50 feet above the target at 500m.....)

Ironically it is apparently easier to get consistency from sub sonic or target ammo, as the 22 going transonic as it slows through the sound barrier causes "wobble".... I saw a youtube video of someone trying this some time back. If I can find it again I will post it.
15-04-2019, 02:14 PM
mjmatsen

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Originally Posted by timattalon

I have heard that you can use 22 to practice LR shooting at closer ranges. (308 does about 2600-2800 fps where 22 does 1300-1400fps) so your 500m drop on a 308 is similar to 250m drop on a 22. It wont be the same as the momentum of the heavier bullet and BC will affect it, but theory is if you can hit a gong at 1000 metres with a 308, the 400m with a 22 is a similar challenge.

I have pushed a 22LR out to 200 to see and has some success at 150m (I will admit there was some luck involved here as well) but the 22 is capable of hitting things at ocer 500m IF you can work out hold over etc. (From memory hold over for zero at 75m to hit a target at 500 m is something like 50 feet above the target at 500m.....)

Ironically it is apparently easier to get consistency from sub sonic or target ammo, as the 22 going transonic as it slows through the sound barrier causes "wobble".... I saw a youtube video of someone trying this some time back. If I can find it again I will post it.

Yeah I shoot CCI SV or Subs, seems to group nicely. At 120m I can hit my 200mm gong every time without an issue. I normally shoot with a bipod though. At that distance I can sometimes 1...2....3 and the group of bunnies never moves.
15-04-2019, 03:43 PM
Tussock

Need good ammo. A rabbit will run off with no appearance of being hit at all. I know this from using crap ammo and finding three some distance away that I thought I had missed.

I started missing comfy shots with my anschutz .22 this morning. Broke another cross hair. Going to have to spend real money on a scope.
15-04-2019, 04:48 PM
mjmatsen

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Originally Posted by Tussock

Need good ammo. A rabbit will run off with no appearance of being hit at all. I know this from using crap ammo and finding three some distance away that I thought I had missed.

I started missing comfy shots with my anschutz .22 this morning. Broke another crosshair. Going to have to spend real money on a scope.

I tried Winchester and Remmington before settling on CCI SV's They are cheap, subsonic and group well. And I just have a Simmons 4-12x30 scope. Got it from the US for like $40
15-04-2019, 05:20 PM
timattalon

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Originally Posted by Tussock

Need good ammo. A rabbit will run off with no appearance of being hit at all. I know this from using crap ammo and finding three some distance away that I thought I had missed.

I started missing comfy shots with my anschutz .22 this morning. Broke another cross hair. Going to have to spend real money on a scope.

Try the Nikko Airkings. reasonable price and very good on 22s.They are made for Air guns and believe it or not, springer air rifles are harder on scopes than large centrefires. Air king has lasted me well and still as good as the day I got it.

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