Thread: TV3 & Guncity mistake

Dongey nockers; cosh's; f-kin CLUBS.
I knew one cop many years back who carried one in his hip pocket, only 8 inches long, but with a lead core. Shit it was good fun watching him clean out the pub at ten past 6 O'clock. It worked good on knees and not too many of the hard bastards in that wild town came back for a second dose.

Who gives a fuck, my computer tells me!

Originally Posted by Kscott

Oh I absolutely agree 100%.

I was merely pointing out the right to silence that everyone enjoys in NZ, and exercising that right appeared to be frowned upon.

No not at all. But to complain publicly (as a Journalist) when the Police exercise their duty and then undertake a legal search? Priceless.

Mob Justice??? Maybe but legit firearms owners are becoming pretty sick an tired of being demonized by the Media. Mob Frustration at injustice is more like it.

Originally Posted by top gun

It is not just the silly bag at TV3 who is in deep doggy poo, it is her partner in crime Garner, the TV3 exec who authorised the scam to proceed AND a certain Police Assn president who had only a week or so previously been bleating about " not knowing how crims got illegal guns"????? And, then this schemozzle occurred. I don't believe in coincidences!!! I firmly believe that this whole thing was dreamed up to try to expose a NON-EXISTENT loophole in the mail order procedure for us law abiding persons to legally obtain firearms by remote control.

As others have stated " THERE WAS NO LOOPHOLE".

MESSRS "SILLY BAG",GARNER ETC ETC ARE ALL GUILTY OF SEVERAL SERIOUS CRIMES & IF THE COPS DON'T PROSECUTE ALL OF THEM??? THEN I AM QUITE CONFIDENT THAT SOMEONE IN THE VICINITY OF CHRISTCHURCH WILL!!!!!

EVERYONE: WATCH THIS SPACE. JUSTICE WILL BE SERVED EVENTUALLY.

Beers to all law abiding firearm owners.

Welcome Top Gun. I'll have a Waikato please.

Originally Posted by Barefoot

We don't need to know about your bedroom antics.

Now I know what all the noise through the wall at his Bach is about.

Originally Posted by Woody

Dongey nockers; cosh's; f-kin CLUBS.
I knew one cop many years back who carried one in his hip pocket, only 8 inches long, but with a lead core. Shit it was good fun watching him clean out the pub at ten past 6 O'clock. It worked good on knees and not too many of the hard bastards in that wild town came back for a second dose.

Ahhh the good old days when police dispensed liberal doses of street justice.

Nope definitely not. Wouldn't dream of provoking anyone (except people who try to denigrate us law abiding firearm owners)
I have been watching this subject since day one & have been in communication with some of the people involved and I know that one + one = two which makes them all guilty of fraudulently forging a police officer's name etc & the illegal use of the Arms Office stamp.

I'm in the trade ( 20 years ) & I know that there were/are NO loopholes in the mail order system to close.!!

I think everyone on this forum wants to see the perpetrators get their collective beans!!! If the police don't do their legal duty then the Tipple lawyer probably will ( I hope??) & from past incidents that is the most likely scenario.
Keep watching this space!!!!

Note: yesterdays NZ Herald had a pretty fair write up of the current state of affairs on this subject.( 3rd Dec page A15 )

Did the fraudulent document have the Arms Office stamp on it?

Originally Posted by Rushy

Hanging by the neck, drawing out of the viscera and quartering (as was seen in the Mel Gibson movie Braveheart) ought to be seriously considered.

Shit oh dear Rushy!!!! I've only been here 5 minutes. I hope I never offend you ????
Hopefully you'll give me a wee warning before the knife gets sharpened???? Eh???

Originally Posted by top gun

Shit oh dear Rushy!!!! I've only been here 5 minutes. I hope I never offend you ????
Hopefully you'll give me a wee warning before the knife gets sharpened???? Eh???

@top gun Rushy doesn't 'do' knives....uses an axe......

Originally Posted by Rushy

Welcome Top Gun. I'll have a Waikato please.

What sized jar Rushy?????

Originally Posted by Scouser

@top gun Rushy doesn't 'do' knives....uses an axe......

A VERY blunt one naturally!!!, eh???

Originally Posted by 300CALMAN

No not at all. But to complain publicly (as a Journalist) when the Police exercise their duty and then undertake a legal search? Priceless.

Mob Justice??? Maybe but legit firearms owners are becoming pretty sick an tired of being demonized by the Media. Mob Frustration at injustice is more like it.

And the media world are acting as a mob as well trying to dispense their own 'bush justice' trial by media of anyone else they have a gripe against. As has been pointed out that there are cars that can go faster than our open road speed limit, drugs can be sent via the mail system, you can rob a dairy with a knife, obtain and possess a firearm illegally, drive with no WOF/Rego, .... These are not loopholes they are criminal acts and if you get caught doing any of them you should not complain. Oh the hypocrisy.

Originally Posted by 10-Ring

Did the fraudulent document have the Arms Office stamp on it?

No it didn't, but this was never a legal requirement.

Also, went and got a mail order form signed today for some ammo, the form has now changed, I won't go over all the changes but the most odd part about it is they ask you what type of firearm you will be using the ammo in.... What the fuck....

Haven't seen anyone talk about this here yet, might have missed it, but now the police officer before they sign your form look your name up in their system to assure you're still fit to hold a FAL.
As if I had somehow not had my licence taken off me after being convicted of a crime where I should have lost it, I'd go and try get a mail order form? That'll catch lots of people out, not.
Then after this cops check the officer told me he now sends it to the firearms head office for more checks.

They really went a mile with this without any legislation change didn't they?

well said gadget -youve smacked the bloody nail right on the swede!my only other comment is the learned judges so called letter to the police commissioner ,in my reading contained some subtle but definite hints of consequences if the matter was not seen in a more favourable light for our little stars. why allude to events that occurred 20yrs ago ,events it appeaers that consisted of police carrying out their duties and encountering a cocksure lawyer who due to an apparent shortcoming was able to prevent a search etc etc.
i dont know how much regulation applies to these blokes once retired But if i was cheif justice Id be ringing and asking him to refrain from this type of tactic whilst an active police investigation is in progress,and as a retired judge he should stay retired and furthermore make his correspondence confidential!
the right to hold an opinion is not denied -the modus operandi of expressing said opinion is in this case bloody debatable!