Thread: TV3 & Guncity mistake

If the use of the Police "Arms Office" stamp was an absolute must in every police district, then these forgeries would be picked up very quickly. I thought that this stamp WAS standard procedure everywhere in NZ but from a lot of comments here it obviously isn't!!!! Was this the loophole that the feds have supposedly plugged?????
We all get denigrated as naughty firearm owners because the police can't run a piss up in a brewery OR are the topdogs at police HQ deliberately allowing a fairly fail safe system to fail????

I would never have actioned a mail order form that didn't have the Arms Office stamp in the bottom right hand corner. Now people wishing to do a mail order transaction for a firearm or ammo have to coordinate their available time at work etc to meet the possibility of someone actually being in an Arms Office when they want a mail order form actioned!!!!! How many non-event visits to the copshop would that take????? & who can just get in their vehicle & leave work or the farm or wherever & front off down to an arms office????? After 2 or 3 failed visits the boss may well get a bit testy eh?????

Who is being put thru the hoops and seriously inconvenienced because of the police failing to have a standardised procedure right throughout NZ?????

I'll bet that the police "Arms Manual" lays out the procedure very clearly but some arms offices fail to follow their own directions & guess who gets the shitty end of the stick???? Good old law abiding forearm owners, AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!

HdPA and others must be getting great glee from some of the comments on this open forum. There will be a fair few "I told you so's" and sage nodding of heads in the media.

Originally Posted by zimmer

HdPA and others must be getting great glee from some of the comments on this open forum.

Are you crediting them with the ability to read and research?

Originally Posted by zimmer

HdPA and others must be getting great glee from some of the comments on this open forum. There will be a fair few "I told you so's" and sage nodding of heads in the media.

Zimmer me old trout, I think those wankers at TV3 will be shitting themselves not being quite sure whether "dear hubby" will get the heat taken off them or not being too sure whether GC will proceed with a private prosecution of the whole pack of the conniving bastards!!!!!

If I was them I'd be getting my toothbrush & jammies ready for quite a few months in the slammer!!!!!

Let's hope the hua's read THAT bit,eh????

Originally Posted by top gun

Zimmer me old trout, I think those wankers at TV3 will be shitting themselves not being quite sure whether "dear hubby" will get the heat taken off them or not being too sure whether GC will proceed with a private prosecution of the whole pack of the conniving bastards!!!!!

If I was them I'd be getting my toothbrush & jammies ready for quite a few months in the slammer!!!!!

Let's hope the hua's read THAT bit,eh????

We can only hope but in this case I am fearfully certain there will be nothing nasty happen to them, but I hope I am wrong...
Maybe we can all wish it as a Christmas present for us. Better than the undies and singlets I normally get.

Zim,
I'm personally hoping that the cops fudge prosecuting them for whatever reasons ( political interference like the Urewera terrorist training camps) or whatever.
If GC take a private prosecution then you can be sure that their "payback" will result in the whole slimy team of them, from O'Connor to the TV3 bosses, will be named & shamed & either booked into Mt.Eden or fined many zillions of $'s along with huge "costs awarded"!!!!!!

That's what I've been kneeling beside my bed & praying for each night!!!! Hopefully everyone of you law abiding chaps & chapesses are doing the same.

The power of group positive thought works, believe me. I've helped a couple of negative karma cases here in Rottenrua lately, VERY satisfying to see arseholes finally get their beans. & I'm not really a vindictive person!!!!

Originally Posted by top gun

Zim,
I'm personally hoping that the cops fudge prosecuting them for whatever reasons ( political interference like the Urewera terrorist training camps) or whatever.
If GC take a private prosecution then you can be sure that their "payback" will result in the whole slimy team of them, from O'Connor to the TV3 bosses, will be named & shamed & either booked into Mt.Eden or fined many zillions of $'s along with huge "costs awarded"!!!!!!

That's what I've been kneeling beside my bed & praying for each night!!!! Hopefully everyone of you law abiding chaps & chapesses are doing the same.

The power of group positive thought works, believe me. I've helped a couple of negative karma cases here in Rottenrua lately, VERY satisfying to see arseholes finally get their beans. & I'm not really a vindictive person!!!!

your dreamin mate cos you fail to realise who,s actually running tv3 now.
who had the leverage to get cambell gone who,s on the board now and who let them off the owed money??

Originally Posted by gsp follower

your dreamin mate cos you fail to realise who,s actually running tv3 now.
who had the leverage to get cambell gone who,s on the board now and who let them off the owed money??

GSP,
Please enlighten me as to who these untouchable turkey's are????
P.S. I'd even be keen to pace a small side bet on what happens ( eventually) to these nice people & who starts the prosecution ball rolling!!!! Any takers????

Originally Posted by top gun

If the use of the Police "Arms Office" stamp was an absolute must in every police district, then these forgeries would be picked up very quickly.

Surely they could just forge the stamp if they were so inclined.

Originally Posted by top gun

I'll bet that the police "Arms Manual" lays out the procedure very clearly but some arms offices fail to follow their own directions & guess who gets the shitty end of the stick???? Good old law abiding forearm owners, AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!

Nope. It just says that the form should be "endorsed' by a member of the Police. Which can include just signing it.

There never has been any legal requirement for a Police seal or stamp on any mail order form.

7.14 Mail Order Sales of Firearms and Ammunition.
Section 43A, Arms Act 1983 creates an offence to sell firearms or ammunition by “mail order” except pursuant to a written order signed by the purchaser and endorsed by Police that the member of Police has inspected their licence, and that they are fit and proper to purchase that firearm or ammunition.

Police Arms Manual 2002