Thread: TV3 & Guncity mistake

Get over yourselves people.

Police have decided not to prosecute, a civil action may or may not happen. Whoopee - NOT

The stunt exposed a weakness in the system, and I for one am pleased that the weakness has been stopped.
FWIW I have purchased since and have had to take the form to a local Firearms Officer who then contacted the seller. Not a big problem.

Get a life folks, go use your firearms for the purposes which you bought them and give your keyboards a rest.

Originally Posted by Cyclops

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Get a life folks, go use your firearms for the purposes which you bought them and give your keyboards a rest.

So you don't believe people have a right to express their opinions, excepting yourself, of course?

Originally Posted by 10-Ring

So you don't believe people have a right to express their opinions, excepting yourself, of course?

He's giving his opinion here is my one, gun ownership is a minority. So whatever your opinion is just consider the 90%? of voters in our democracy's opinion who dont own a gun and of them probably a significant % who dont want you to own a gun may think come election time. Appearing to be a bunch of uncontrollable nut jobs is one sure way to see us get draconian gun laws like OZ IMHO how ever unfair that is.

Originally Posted by steven

He's giving his opinion here is my one, gun ownership is a minority. So whatever your opinion is just consider the 90%? of voters in our democracy's opinion who dont own a gun and of them probably a significant % who dont want you to own a gun may think come election time. Appearing to be a bunch of uncontrollable nut jobs is one sure way to see us get draconian gun laws like OZ IMHO how ever unfair that is.

We don't know what percentage of the population don't want us to own a gun and to guess or suppose is pure speculation. Certainly, in the rural sector, it's been my experience that most folk are not anti gun.

Originally Posted by 10-Ring

We don't know what percentage of the population don't want us to own a gun and to guess or suppose is pure speculation. Certainly, in the rural sector, it's been my experience that most folk are not anti gun.

Don't worry, almost everything in this thread is pure speculation

the strangest thing is if a drunk driver has an accident or any driver deliberatly kills someone .
presumembly cos people understand through familarity that the vehicle of the death is not to blame.
its not the car thats demonised its the persons and i know yes they were designed to kill but if maybe more people were at least familiar with the uses and good side of gunownership then even that might change.
so take every opportunity to enlighten show but not brow beat into people what fun and safe enjoyment can be had.
the funniest part of the whole weeks news was that they,re putting guns into the hands of cops who have less trigger time than the sons or daughters of your average hunter.
aint we been saying that for years duh and these are the very people trying to lay down and enforce the gunlaws to us ????.
the worst part of that is they,re armed with the very weapons we are considered, without jumping thru umpteen hoops, incompetent and unsafe to have.
talk about the hieght of hypocrisy and stupidity.
i cant make up my mind whether its sad tragic or criminal that ive put more rounds thru my bolt action 22 in the last 2 weeks than the average cops with thier glocks and ar15 varients will use in a year.If i addded in the shotgun i could probably be hired as a instructor hope they supply armoured footware.

id suggest to you with all due respect that your opinion is in the minority and give its laced with sarcasm not overly valued cylops /

Originally Posted by kotuku

id suggest to you with all due respect that your opinion is in the minority and give its laced with sarcasm not overly valued cylops /

In the minority on here maybe, but what about out there where everyone else is?

Originally Posted by Cyclops

Get over yourselves people.

Police have decided not to prosecute, a civil action may or may not happen. Whoopee - NOT

The stunt exposed a weakness in the system, and I for one am pleased that the weakness has been stopped.
FWIW I have purchased since and have had to take the form to a local Firearms Officer who then contacted the seller. Not a big problem.

Get a life folks, go use your firearms for the purposes which you bought them and give your keyboards a rest.

Agree. What most in here I think fail to appreciate is many people are afraid of guns and they vote. So this is turning/turned into a PR disaster for us gun owners which could have been avoided and indeed used positively for us. Really simple, "oops, a hole was found we have fixed this really quickly sorry about that. In fact we'll review the system to make sure there are no others similar holes" the voting public would have been left with the impression that gun owners and shops take safety and security seriously.

Instead Guncity might prosecute, I dont think they will, if they do they'll get their ass handed to them in a court by a Jury and make gun owners look worse in the eyes of the clueless voter.

Wait.. What.. I don't mean to hijack the thread and forgive me for my lack of naivety and at the risk of asking dumb assed questions. Are you saying that you cannot fire your legally owned (C endorsment?) full-auto firearms, even on a range? ever ever? Also; can you not use your legally owned pistol to hunt in NZ?

Originally Posted by Roddy

Wait.. What.. I don't mean to hijack the thread and forgive me for my lack of naivety and at the risk of asking dumb assed questions. Are you saying that you cannot fire your legally owned (C endorsment?) full-auto firearms, even on a range? ever ever? Also; can you not use your legally owned pistol to hunt in NZ?

Nope

Originally Posted by Moutere

Nope

Not ever or even longer !!

Originally Posted by mikee

Not ever or even longer !!

Are the police carbines capable of full auto?

No, Police Bushmasters are semi auto only. Only NZA has full auto.

Originally Posted by Roddy

Wait.. What.. I don't mean to hijack the thread and forgive me for my lack of naivety and at the risk of asking dumb assed questions. Are you saying that you cannot fire your legally owned (C endorsment?) full-auto firearms, even on a range? ever ever? Also; can you not use your legally owned pistol to hunt in NZ?

You can't shoot it with live ammunition, but can shoot with blanks if demonstrating it to someone to sell to prove it works, and no, you cannot shoot your pistol outside an approved range.

It's all here.
http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/p.../DLM72622.html

Originally Posted by Kscott

you cannot shoot your pistol outside an approved range.

If your a keen bean you can build your own range at home if you have land and get it certified.