There's no doubt in my mine she escaped conviction due to her connections to the govt, someone told the cops NO
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There's no doubt in my mine she escaped conviction due to her connections to the govt, someone told the cops NO
I don't think there's any chance of convincing you the NZ Police aren't that corrupt, especially for such a high profile case. Secrets are difficult to keep.
You can add me to that list.................... our coppers just like the rest of NZ population are not squeeky clean BUT they should be squeeky cleaner than the rest of us and be seen to be so if they expect the general public to respect and trust them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kscott
and you can bet your bottom dollar if it was a licensed firearms owner who "impersonated' a police officer on that form they would have had the whole "library" thrown at them
Let's not kid ourselves here, it was wrong to not convict her, the fact it may have came from the police directly is probably more worrying than the chance it didn't....
As much as i hate to say it, she would not have been found guilty at court. Even though she broke the law her intent was not criminal. And that is what the defence would have focussed on. I think though that should Tipple go ahead with his civil case he would win as the bar is lower for a civil conviction.
is intent knowlingly breaking the law for some spurious supposed public good/ratings?? i think yes?did she talk to her boss about doing this i imagine she had to clear it in this litigious scratch my back era??Quote:
Originally Posted by stug
would she have got a legal opinion in this day of arse covering?probably
Her intent was definitely criminal as that is what she was tying to show, if not then she wouldn't have had a story. It would be exactly the same as driving a car at 160km/h though downtown Wellington to show it can be done even though knowing that it is illegal.Quote:
Originally Posted by stug
And the police response is the equivalent of using that as justification to lower the speed limit from 50 to 30km/h.Quote:
Originally Posted by gadgetman
Mark Weldon was the CEO of Media Works at the time & according the NZ Herald clip that I have he gave the go ahead for the team to proceed with their scam.Quote:
Originally Posted by gsp follower
When Nic Taylor finishes tearing the whole lot of the scheming bathplugs to pieces in court, they won't know if they've been punched,drilled or countersunk!!!! The sooner & more publicly done the better.
Also it means we should ban Nissan Skylines, it doesn't matter if it was actually done with a rental Corolla because *everybody knows* that psycho drivers are attracted to Skylines.Quote:
Originally Posted by GravelBen
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Mark Weldon was the CEO of Media Works at the time & according the NZ Herald clip that I have he gave the go ahead for the team to proceed with their scam.
jon boys bum chum you mean:D
how public will it get if the media sticks together and stays away or worse stays quiet.Quote:
When Nic Taylor finishes tearing the whole lot of the scheming bathplugs to pieces in court, they won't know if they've been punched,drilled or countersunk!!!! The sooner & more publicly done the better]
im still waiting on a reply from story as to whether garners a licenced firearms user:D
Or being caught driving over the limit. "Sorry officer I didn't INTEND to drink quite so much but I was trying to show others its possible " try that one and see where you end upQuote:
Originally Posted by gadgetman
thats what shit about the whole mess
the cops want public help when it suits them but when we want to see everybody treated the same, and therefore have something to base the old respect they used to have on ?they let us down .
percieved or not this is a nail in the coffin of the one law for all claims of crusher and the supposed law and order party.
yep we are tough on boy racers tough on fine dodgers
tough on tax evasion oops firearms crime oops burglary including upteen dealer and collector firearms robberies still unsolved oops
As I was taught in a first year uni law paper... "Justice must not only be done, but be seen to be done"
his best chance is to change his name to du plesssis allan::yaeh am not durnk:Quote:
Police say they have recovered another pistol from a large collection of guns allegedly sold by a Coromandel collector on the black market.
The Glock automatic pistol was found in a bag by a man who stopped his car on State Highway 25, near Thames on Friday. A sawn-off shotgun was found nearby.
"Operation Might" head Detective Senior Sergeant Greg Nicholls said the pistol was one of 121 restricted weapons police allege collector John Noel Mabey sold on the black market.
Six other weapons have been recovered.
Mabey's collector's licence was revoked at the end of August when he was arrested on 20 firearms offences and a charge of making a false statement to police.
He told police 121 pistols, semi-automatic rifles and sub-machine guns were stolen.
Police offered an amnesty for the return of the haul of weapons.
Mr Nicholls said a man driving on the Kopu-Hikuai Rd stopped to toilet his dog last Friday and found the pistol and shotgun in bush off the road and contacted police.
"While we are grateful two more weapons are off the street police want to remind the public another 114 weapons, including sub-machineguns, pistols, assault rifles and machineguns remain unaccounted for."
:really really fuckin realyQuote:
Most of the illegal firearms are stolen in residential burglaries or from collectors by organised criminal groups, police documents released under the Official Information Act show.
"Research indicates there is already a large pool of illegally held firearms in New Zealand and that firearms of almost any type can be obtained relatively easily from within the criminal fraternity without needing to source illicit firearms from overseas," according to the 2011 National Strategic Assessment paper.
But a request for the total number of guns reported stolen in each police district over the past years was refused - because the records do not exist.
then get off our cases and catch the c...s who are doing it and put the blame and shame where it belongs not on the average law abiding gun owner/user
THAT is exactly the point.Quote:
Originally Posted by GravelBen
Three shorts out of the Mabey stash have been used against police already. How that fucker isn't in jail for 20 years I'll never understand. It's reasonably well-known who stood him over and why.Quote:
Originally Posted by gsp follower
I sent this to the "NZ Herald" this morning: Last year HdPA contravened the Arms Act wilfully by using another person's firearms licence and false details in order to purchase a firearm, thus committing a criminal act. Her rationale was to expose a "loophole" in the firearms purchasing system. The Police decided not to lay charges against her. Recently a man obtained some firearms by forging a firearms licence and using incorrect forms. If he is apprehended and chooses to use the same defence as Heather (exposing a "loophole"), will the Police treat him similarly? I think not.
[QUOTE ]I am the holder of a Firearms Licence and of 18 years of age and over. I acknowledge that all information I will provide during checkout procedure is true and correct and that it is an federal offence to offer false information reguarding this.
By law your name address and firearms licence details must be recorded on a reciept and kept ,for all firearms , and parts transactions.][/QUOTE]
lucky she didnt auzzie pull her stunt in auz.
they really dont give a monkeys its only the law abiding they incovenience and put cost onto.
all the while living under the protection of the most damaging of guns ,in the hands of udertrained operators,which they wouldnt hesitate to call on if they felt threatened.
I may have missed the answer to this question somewhere in all the comments on this subject?? But: What was the "loophole" in the previous mail order procedure?????Quote:
Originally Posted by Ranger 888
F'kd if I could see one apart from forgery and impersonation of police arms office people!!!!! & other criminal PREMEDITATED acts.
:roll:
Now @Gibo HARDEN THE FUCK UP!!!:thumbsup:
What are you on about? I'm rolling my eyes cause TG like clock work comes and stokes this one up with the same question :D Take your advise above but swap harden with shut :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Maca49
Umm, this was answered and you ticked 'like' in March.Quote:
Originally Posted by top gun
Except it wasn't a loophole, but a flaw in the system that people believed a piece of paper mailed to them because they wanted to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve123
+1 for @Gibo , this is old news and has gone to bed a long time ago.
Then why bring it up again?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kscott
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topgun brought it up again, not kscott.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve123
It would be bearable if HDPA looked nice
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Well SHUT UP then, shit I enjoyed saying that!:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gibo
So Steve you see the bulldog in drag as well huh?Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve123
The heads out of proportion to her body and I reckon there's a fair dollop of neanderthal in her gene pool. Good on the old goat who's humping her but I find it hard to respect any woman who's married to some one 30 years her senior.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rushy
it's obviously not the sex then, oops sorry Rushy,:ORLY: Maca:wtfsmilie:
I find that with age comes refined technique which has led to enhanced ability GA. on the other hand Maca was telling me that by the time he takes his hearing aid off and takes out his false teeth his wife has given up waiting and has gone to sleep on him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gapped axe
What! ? I not complain;)
well funky Duncy Garner has managed to make a c....t of himself by being a right cock this time without Heifer do see mee Allen. TV3 organise some nude dining item in some swanky jaffaland eating establishment then show all the waitresses girly bits and waiters boy bits on primetime TV.
all Duncy can do is get embarrased in the studio afterward. this is the same bunch of MSM retards who allow photos to be taken of a certain famous female and male announcer unloading copious quantities of piss for a party to celebrate the demise of the incumbent CEO.
another pratt interviews one of TV3s senior female reporters(suitably indignant)on his radio squawkback show but both overlook revealing shes actually married to one of TV3s bigmouth reporters oft quoted about this crap!
whats the old saying -inmates running the asylum!no wonder the cops didnt charge over the guncity issue -fuck me a defence of idiotic insanity would have blown it clean out of the water!
Just another ratings stunt.
Wouldn't know after the firearm stunt I don't watch there bullshit show.
I might of keep watching if the show was filmed from a jail cell.
Iv never watched it!Quote:
Originally Posted by bully
I actually recorded the episode as I want to see what they were on about with the plumbers, then I heard about what had happened so I watched it last night:thumbsup: It's bullshit thouQuote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
1st time I've ever heard Hamilton described in this way. Hopefully the last.Quote:
Originally Posted by kotuku
