NZPA president Greg O'Connor to stand down - National - NZ Herald News
Well we will have to watch that SOB lets hope he doesn't make Politician, unfortunately Greg O'Connor will use criminality as an excuse to introduce the laws he wants.
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NZPA president Greg O'Connor to stand down - National - NZ Herald News
Well we will have to watch that SOB lets hope he doesn't make Politician, unfortunately Greg O'Connor will use criminality as an excuse to introduce the laws he wants.
I'm sending a mail order form tomorrow, well GC are only accepting forms emailed from police. I spoke to the arms officer who said that it isn't law to do that but GC company policy. The fun thing for me will be seeing how long it takes for the scan an email task to be done as it's not a part if an officers job to be a secretary.
Sent from my workbench
On a side note did anyone else spot the manual.
My wife asked me what a "SPROTING" rifle is used for. Quality translation skills there........I sh_t you not, it says S.P.R.O.T.I.N.G RIFLE on the front of the manual.......
Maca, take a note of every article on the news tonight (any channel) and then sit back and analyse the content. I can almost guarantee you that there won't be any actual news worthy articles in amongst it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maca49
I think tv is mosty desighned to dumb the audience down and it works
The local cop shop here has been scanning and sending them the last few years. I love it!, its so friggin simple and one less thing I have to do. they're pretty quick at doing it too surprisingly!Quote:
Originally Posted by smidey
All Kudos to our young friend departed. His words of wisdom resonated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pengy
watched the crazy cow with lips like a piece of gashed meat ,and he mate the slobbering fatguts last night .very smarmy about how"they "revealed the loophole and kept the police informed .and how its seems so legit,blahblah.
oops cow ya forgot to inform the viewers that the auckland cops have you under investigation.
the singular sobering thing they addressed is the worrying habit of some slack couriers dropping firearms on frontdoorsteps and just leaving them there ,apparently even if its a signature required case sometimes.that i do agree with.
Oconnor stepping doqwn -well where theres smoke theres fire Greg and it seems to further your wee agenda youve shit in your own nest!
the other thought i have is wtf if these two were so concerned ,why not speak with INSP.Joe Green of PNHQ as he oversees all fireams matters does he not .
oh dear conclusion another bit of tabloid journalism by a couple of ex parliamentary press gallery bottom dwelling sewerage suckers!
Be interesting to make a complaint to the Broadcasting Standard(?) in that they haven't shown a fair and unbiased view. They neglected to say that they faked the details of a Police Officer to fool Guncity. They said they did not take the form to the Police this implies that the form was not filled in by Police and makes it seem that Guncity accepted a form that had not been authorised by Police. They also claim to have made up a firearms licence number. This implies they put down any old random number, how Guncity claims to have checked the number and it was valid, so they either know the system by how the Firearms numbers are generated or they actually used a real number.
Gun city has been a target for a few years and been the biggest supplier of firearms, all it takes is little issue over some stupid reporter to stuff things up for the rest of us
Silly thing is, she a hopeless reporter trying to make a name for herself .
I have decided that we live in a very sad time if people think that most of the other people that live in their society are all that dishonest that they are wiling to do things like fraud and impersonating a member of the police to obtain something they are unlawfully allowed.
Sooner or later we'll be able to trade gear through a smart phone application, exchange QR codes job done.
Then all the unpleasant trust issues and paperwork can be put behind us.
The BSA is a farce and a sick joke. Some associates and I have taken them to task over bullshit spread through TV news in past programs; (in those cases the issue was about misleading information which supported 1080 poison use) and after 6 months of correspondence going almost to the Courts, the BSA admitted that in law, the media journalists comments and news stories were only ever to be considered as "OPINIONS", and not to be taken as FACT. While we were on the point of taking NZBC to court over misinformation, as well as the perpetrators behind the misleading reports, the admissions by the BSA meant that any such court action would itself be farcical and a waste of the judiciary's time (and our funds) because NZ journalism does not have to represent facts, but only "journalists opinions".Quote:
Originally Posted by stug
That the NZ Police or government departments, Ministers or other public servants can use the media to "inform" the public (you) via so-called "journalists' when these "non- accuracy rules" apply, is a disgrace and something the NZ public is largely unaware of and government should be ashamed of. Oh, I forgot, the government is run by politicians!
Do journalists try to run politicians??? ;)
i presume that imperonating a police officer is still an offence?
did anyone note that when guncity rang twice a guy took the calls?
if this was you or i we,d still be smarting from the shafting the old bill would be subjecting us to.
done and signed.looks like quite a few yarpies might be in for some comeupppance quite soon:yaeh am not durnk:
what are the odds of her random licence number bieng real given she,d of have to known the licence prefix for a start then pick a random number.methinks thier pet licence holder may have more to do with this than meets the eye.
john cambell is an example of what happens to good journo,s who embarass politicians to much so i guess that helped pull the others in line.
So why no charges as yet! I think the next guy that deceases a scum bag should be able to use the same excuse?
Picking a random number that just happened to be real after all would have odds similar to Lotto methinks - well at least lower division odds.Quote:
Originally Posted by gsp follower
Looks like dog turd, smells like dog turd, mmmm tastes like do turd.
i wonder if the cop details were real to given to them by old guns under every bed?? occonnor:yaeh am not durnk:
any way shit show shite stories and short attention span journolism.
maybe untill some bastard trys to chuck your mum out of a home she,s been in 3o plus years or some sack of shit sells you a car that dies the same day then blanks you.Quote:
Looks like dog turd, smells like dog turd, mmmm tastes like do turd.]
there are journo,s and journos like very other profession:O_O:
So the police now fill out there own form and attach the order form to it an email to retailer. As if 9am this morning that is the process so they lady at the cop shop said
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And supply the purchaser with all your personal details including your email, well that's watertight, a few gangs will love it. They can email you first to see if your going to be at home for the pick up. Where do all the rock heads come from?
It seems to be the right thing from what I can see. It ensures the verification of the buyer is solid and can't be forged
Sent from my workbench
Well that's the end of me selling with out buyer being able to pickup. No way I'm giving those details out when they are not required.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maca49
Had this email from TM today...
Attachment 41694
Where do you live Maca and when are you going out? Oh and where is your safe and what is the combination?Quote:
Originally Posted by Maca49
why go thru that hassle when you can get your cuzzie who works in the civilian cop ranks to give you collectors details and pinch the whole lot.Quote:
And supply the purchaser with all your personal details including your email, well that's watertight, a few gangs will love it
It's amazing how fast the police dropped the "original form must be posted - no scanned or e-mail copies" policy on the transfer form when it suddenly became them who would have to pay for the stamp.
Don't worry Rushy you'd be unlucky to get a crim like Heather buying off you! I'll have to get another email and shipping address and give them an alias, might need a nick name on my licence!:O_O: really serious for E cat, B and C licence holders, stupid stupidQuote:
Originally Posted by Rushy
Yep I agree, we should challenge under the privacy act?Quote:
Originally Posted by gsp follower
I sold a rifle a few weeks back and the buyer asked for all my details, so I gave him them (all false except name) and I got an email back saying for some reasons my details didn't match up at the cop shop. I called him and said I wasn't surprised as they were false, explained I don't give my details out for security reasons. Told him to call me when he was at the cop shop and I'll speak to who ever he was dealing with. So I got the ph call a day later and the Sargeant came on the ph. I told the Sargeant I wasn't trying to be difficult but I wasn't going to hand all my details to some random person I didn't know. He didn't care, and wanted them, so I politely said it wasn't happening, and that all I wanted to know was that this rooster held a current FAL, and as a seller thats all I need to know. He wasn't a happy chappy, but I couldn't give a fuck, policeman or not, a buyer doesn't need to know my shit!
How did you know that it was the police you were talking to? Would of been better for the seller to phone you that he was at such and such police station and then you could've looked the phone number up and called the station yourself.
Could have been Tom, Dickinson or Harry, but seeing as he had been to the cop shop in the first instance and finding out my details were false (only the police would know) I would imagine he's got no reason not to go back, and more importantly, I didn't send the rifle till I had the appropriate paperwork.Quote:
Originally Posted by 10-Ring
The system works as it is as long as your a responsible seller. No need to try and complicate a simple process is there?
So, just my little opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommy
I don't know if this "phone photo" is the real police form thing, but, if it is i spot few problems in between buyer and seller.
The buyer: if they produce it to prove anything they are straight away WRONG, as they are falsifying a official document, then committing a crime, if they have use a supposed police officer name without permit they are wrong again…
The seller: been the seller a very well stablished business the people work for them must be trained to deal with all kinds of situations they may come across, they should be able to identify a not fully completed document(in my opinion), i always have my online forms signed and stamped by the officer who do sight it.
So, in both ways they are wrong!
I believe all certified firearms, ammunition and its variants should have access to a national online firearms database, this way these retailers could double check the buyer information is correct or if the F.A.L. is actually current. For those who are selling privately it is a must to check the appropriate documentation and if not sure if it is legal or valid just call a police station/office and check the details of the person who you intend to "send/deliver" the goods.
Well, hope it make some sense to you guys.
Shame a lot of restrictions has been imposed on us "law" abide and responsible gun owners because someone want/need to prove a point(i must agree it unfortunately is/was a good point)
Cheers.
Mac
Looks like Mr a key is happy with the sting and the way the the law has been amended to close the loop hole. So all ok Heather the criminal probably be knighted for her effort! Hope Tipple bankrupts her!
Breathe Maca, breathe. Rest in the knowledge that when anarchy descends, we that have access to our firearms will be the ones that will save the nation from all of the insurrection and rebellion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maca49
Hunting and Fishing didn't mind getting on the bandwagon to aid TV3's cause
Typical business catyness/one ups man ship.Quote:
Originally Posted by jackson21
I buy less from H&F than I buy from GS.
I buy nothing from GS.
I see theHearalds bringing up Tipples past to justify these criminal actions? Can't believe no reaction from the police! It's a fickle country we live in, laws for some no for others? Of course I only see in black and white!:D
And yet you are so grey now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maca49
You're not wrong. 100 to 1 young Heather won't be charged and will probably feature in the next issue of Woman's Day as the country's new heroine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maca49
There is a thing called Woman's Day? How long have you been in Tokoroa? I lived there in my youth.Quote:
Originally Posted by 10-Ring
