My parents and or partner and a freind were not grilled about my sutability to own a motorvehicle before being given a drivers licence Rushy.
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My parents and or partner and a freind were not grilled about my sutability to own a motorvehicle before being given a drivers licence Rushy.
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OK I get that bit but I personally think it should be a tougher row to hoe to get an FAL as currently there is nothing in the process that even ensures that the recipient can handle a firearm safely.Quote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
Weĺl even profesionally trained army and police still have incidents so what is a day at the range going to prove?
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Accepted, and so do professionally trained doctors and surgeons but I suspect it would be a whole lot worse without the training. No level of training will ever completely eliminate the hazards associated with anything but training goes a very long way to reducing the likelihood that they will occur. There will always be the possibility of momentary inattention and all the training in the world will never get rid of the stupidity factor in those that have it.Quote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
True Rushy.... but a license process that requires training would therefore only be required if it can be established that we have a significant problem as a result of inexperience.
If as I suspect, we have more issues with experienced people where is the benefit to reducing harm by evaluating those without experience....?
Resources are scarce, and someone always has to pay... we better be certain we dedicate any resources to areas where it can be established that we have significant benefit, it is not necessarily conclusive that those without experience are more dangerous...
I should have explained a bit better, it's very easy to visit this country, hire a camper van or car with close to zero experience and drive.
'Let's ditch firearms hysterics' - stuff-nation | Stuff.co.nz
A bit of common sense by Gary here.
@Kscott you bet me to it ;-)
Yes great to see. It was getting hard reading all this negativity & made-up non-sense as of lately...
Balanced and articulate.
its a pity about some of the comments made on the opinion piece by anti hunters
Yep some are on another planet. Went for a drive this evening to onehunga, and came across this in Mt Albert.. Had to do a U turn and get a picture or two:Quote:
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Well bugger me
No thanks!:sick:
It was an exclamation not an offer.Quote:
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That's your story & you stick to it :)Quote:
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Dam it! Talk about build us up then shoot us down.Quote:
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That's a great article, my feeling always were once all bulshit aside the amount of accidents to the amount of people engaged in firearms activity are relatively low to amount of use. Will never be zero unfortunately, nature of the beast.
Our firearms laws, based on the actual person work well with ramped levels of compliance to category , maybe this simplicity and that it actually works well just annoys the anti-brigade
Journalists are ranting at guns and guns owners ,and we are the target of thoses recent ( dramatic) news and articles, because they have nothing else to vomit onto at the moment and guns are an easy subject to talk about...
If next week a fleet of Japanese boats come and kills some whales in our waters, the attention of the public will change and refocus to that new drama, and we might even join the greenies on this one.
And back in Japan people will probably argue that they are doing scientific research on whales and that the killing is justified.
I recon they are doing culinary research on whales myself!
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So I wake up this morning to "pick on Rushy day". Who knew? I would have taken the day off work to celebrate. Good on ya guys.Quote:
Originally Posted by Savage1
Panic not Rushy i have your back, walk slowly but purposely towards fame and ignore their acrid odour and fashion senseQuote:
Originally Posted by Rushy
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Looks like trash reporting by TV3s 3D program didn't work for them.
3D program is going to be axed Oh dear what a sham -NOT ha ha ha
I thought all the mischief was from HdPA on Story @ 7:00?Quote:
Originally Posted by BobGibson
oops yep my mistake
So the net effect of this is that I can't get a mail order form for some ammunition because the arms officer has gone home. Fuck you TV3.
What gets me is that the form is the method with which we which use to vet the purchaser as a licence holder.
Some one has to break the law in order to use it for false pretence.
If the journalist doesn't get prosecuted, it demonstrates that there was never any consequence intended to keep people honest.
Yes she should have take the gun and investigated how hard it is to poach and rob a bank:redbullsmiley: What dose the police commissioner say about this?Quote:
Originally Posted by Moutere
Looking at the way she was handling it and trying to remember clearly (and poorly) rehearsed lines, I would suggest that she knows so little about them she would probably have trouble finding the dangerous end.......so robbing a bank would be a recipe for disaster. Someone would get hurt but it would be due to incompetence rather than anything intentional......I think she may have wanted to avoid receiving a Darwin award........Pity. I think she was on the right track to earn one....Quote:
Originally Posted by Sideshow
i cant be fecked trolling thru the whole thread to see if you guys have picked up on this or not but.
did you see garner interview with a certain ex candidate for the hb coucil one lusk ??
now does garner possesss a firearms licence ?
if no as i suspect then cos lusk was supplying him with a rifle to shoot at deer in deer fenced paddocks what the hell was going on.
THE LAW NOW AS I UNDERSTAND IS IF YOUR TAKING A UNLICENCED person out theres one gun?NOT ONE EACH
you do not supply him with a rifle to WANDER ABOUT and play silly buggers with cos he was obviously a novice at best just going on what was shown
selective enforcement a? just like tama iti but any restrictive laws will be on our arses not these sound bite seeking tosspots.
something is happening, hope it goes all the way
Police search home of Heather du Plessis-Allan - Entertainment - NZ Herald News
Oh, i see the herald has listed it under the entertainment section. ironic i think as that is what it is but would like to see it under criminal :)
Heathers having her apartment searched by police at present?? I don't think they'll find much, maybe just an old guy asleep in the bed?
Shit her draws are messy:wtfsmilie:
But but but-- Paul Henry says it was GREAT JOURNALISM on her part. :ORLY:
FFS:sick:
Yeah but hes a wanker anyway!:O_O:
Do the crime do the time. Journalists cannot expect to impersonate a police office and get away with it by saying they were doing the public a favour
not to mention fraudulent use of a document and possibly more supplyingg false details to police maybe.Quote:
Originally Posted by sako75
Will be interesting how this plays out there are multiple possible charges impersonating a police officer fraudulent use of a document unlawfull possession of a firearm issueing a false statement possibly others. Considering the possible outcomes could she be deported to SA?
Yahoo she would have to take Mr Soper!!! an all round win!!
It appears the form never went to the police, if it had they would have found she didn't have a licence.Quote:
Originally Posted by gsp follower
It appears she filled out the police part of the form, which is quite a serious matter apparently.
As we all know, (or should do) these apparent flagrant criminal acts by Heather du Plessis-Allan were not done in the best interests of the public at all, rather, the public will have their best interests served by her prosecution if these crimes are proved.
