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According to her husband (Soper) it appears that they were advised yesterday by the Police that a search warrant would be served today. "Hello? Mr Escobar, this is a courtesy call to advise you that we will be searching your home for drugs and other incriminating evidence tomorrow morning. Yes Mr Escobar, that is my account number. Thank you for your co-operation!" What a fecking joke!
Busy night in the Soper home last night then? Little fire going outback?:yuush:
I thought it funny the camera shot was going through her paper receipts - Hang on wasn't this a online / mail order transaction? wouldn't all the incriminating document altering stuff be on the computers and be images printed off to be provided?
Maybe they are old school with their forgeries... but it looked like the boys in blue are still looking for the carbon copies... Don't get it??
That's the thing, she forged the police bit which is handwrittenQuote:
Originally Posted by Carpe Diem
They were looking for samples of her hand writing CD. So that they could prove it was her that filled out he form.Quote:
Originally Posted by Carpe Diem
Gotcha - I guess I just thought Microsoft would have multiple saved copies of the document as it was altered and printed off would be enough to point the finger, but - yes you're right boys... first to prove its her writing - but if it was me wouldn't you get someone like a intern to do that for you... 'cos she and Duncan were laughing about it (in another un related situation) just the other day on the radio that you "always blame the intern for this kind of stuff" - Its never you ! so maybe a little trip into the office wouldn't hurt too?
The way her hubby & a few friendly MP's are banging on about it in the media, I think she realises that a conviction might be rather inconvenient & being a journalist isn't going to get her a pass.
Cry me a river luvvy.Quote:
Originally Posted by outdoorlad
You and I would probably loose our jobs mate....fit and proper, loss of security clearance etc., the Feds could make it as ugly as they wanted to for somebody without a media profile.
B
Assuming that charges will be made against Heather, there is an opportunity here for the Court to make a real statement. Send her arse to prison I say.
we should be so lucky butQuote:
Originally Posted by Marty Henry
this isn't Australia....... (although she was suggesting we should be the other day)
Yes it's "story" that's done the dirty. However I hope the demise of 3D makes TV3 either change it's nasty tabloid style journalism or puts them out of business.Quote:
Originally Posted by BobGibson
I wonder where Greg Connor is right now? Remember, HE set this up. I hope the cops are checking out HIS knickers drawer as well. I hope the poo splatters far and wide on this one
Seems in light of Dave T's getting the cops to check his GunCity records and their finding no irregularities (contrary to media claims)that" Heifer DPA" is being hung out to dry .of course we have her dopey husband 'bawy sober",who looks like hes always been sniffing the pinot noir bottle ,chiming in supporting his bit of muff,plus the usual array of dopey politicians inclusive of Peter Dunne(what does Alan Simmons see in him for gods sake). One of course hopes also that greg oconnor gets a good arse kick as well if proceedings do eventuate!
I reckon it would have been more ironic if they got another 'journalist' to break into her house and steal some stuff, just to illustrate (in the public interest of course) how you can illegally obtain things by disregarding legal and ethical behaviour.
I was thinking this myself..... call me a conspiracy theorist but....... maybe this is all his doing...... you know find a dumb patsy journalist to commit the crime show them how to do it and sit back and say "I told you so" ....all to further his own political agenda.....last thing we need is this slimy little weasel sitting in an MPs seat, even the political parties should be keeping him at the proverbial bargepole length , a dangerous little man who should not get any powerQuote:
Originally Posted by keneff
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Originally Posted by Carpe Diem
Hang on, She is the intern..........
I see she was advocating becoming part of Australia, but wasnt she also keen on a flag change? And correct me if I am wrong but isn't the main reason the flag change is warranted the fact that it looks like too much like Australia's?
If we dont want to look similar to Ozzys flag, why in hell we want it to be the SAME ????????????
She is about as ditzy as it gets. As soon as TV3 realises she is about as effective as a reporter as raw chicken is a cure for food poisoning, they will make the smart choice and dump them both.
And its not like she could be considered the eye candy .....Clearly that could be the reason Garner is there...
aint it funny if the cops were,nt doing thier utmost to investigate a civilian lawbreaker she,d be all over them.:yaeh am not durnk:
YOU COMMITTED FRAUD AND IMPERSONATED A COP TO HIGHLIGHT A SITUATION THE COPS AREADY KNEW ABOUT?? UNDER YOUR OWN ADMISSION,\.
GAME OVER
I'd say she impersonated a cop and commited fraud for financial gain - its a business and viewer attention means advertising money.
''i stand by the journalism'' then like a good journo you should be prepared to accept the consequences
British journalists face five years in Indonesian ...
Al-Jazeera journalists sentenced to three years in...
Two journalists arrested for story on intelligence...
your not in thier class nor is your exposay but you should be prepared to show some of thier integrity:angry:.
kaching!Quote:
Originally Posted by GravelBen
You win mate!This is what I have been trying to write, but couldnt find the words, she broke the law, plain and simple
This is my thinking on the matter. Her job is journalism. She needs viewers to have a show and make money. She does sensational stories to get viewers. She did a story where she broke multiple laws to create a sensational story = committing a crime for financial gain.Quote:
Originally Posted by GravelBen
I can't believe all the support she is getting tho.
It is just wrong.
If it was anyone of us that did it.....
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The real irony is they would have to break fewer laws than she did to do this!Quote:
Originally Posted by GravelBen
An interesting take on was it a "loophole" by another journalist.
David Fisher: Did they prove a loophole? Or simply break the law? - Opinion - NZ Herald News
Committing a crime for financial gain, with a firearm involved being an aggravating factorQuote:
Originally Posted by Beavis
The logic implied seems to be - what she did was ok because guns.Quote:
Originally Posted by R93
https://twitter.com/barrysoper/statu...605440/photo/1
The search warrant was issued for Forgery and Obtaining by deception, I really hope the Obtaining by deception charge sticks and gets a decent sentence.
Prison sentence possible for Heather du Plessis Allan's gun control story - National - NZ Herald News
So it turns out the police asked to speak to the staff involved, by they shut up shop and refused to be interviewed, hence the search.
Hanging by the neck, drawing out of the viscera and quartering (as was seen in the Mel Gibson movie Braveheart) ought to be seriously considered.
For her next sting she plans to hold up a pharmacy with a knife, then tell us there is a "loophole" with regards to getting prescription drugs without a prescription, all you need is a knife.
Then when they arrest her for armed robbery and possession of controlled substances she will bleat that it was in public interest and demand leniency......
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Far out a Journo who looks at things logically... Big ups to him.Quote:
Originally Posted by stug
I think you guys are missing the closure, here it is,
"It came after a former judge slammed the house raid, saying journalists who break the laws in pursuit of stories are acting as the "eyes and ears" of the public."
That strikes me as the closest thing to a judicial review / court case result where the police/Guncity have such a weak case the judge not only throws it out but awards costs against them.
Yeah it must be shithouse calling in favours from 'former' judges. The shame!Quote:
Originally Posted by steven
Wonder if they'd say the same thing if a journalist broke into their house looking for a story...Quote:
Originally Posted by steven
I think pretty much all the journos are hammering in the public head that what she did was for a good cause and that she should not be prosecuted. But that is plain wrong, I would love to see a down to earth judge sentence her behind bar and set a precedent ( or a reminder) to all those arrogant journos who think they can act above the law.
Would this not set a precedent that the signing of the form can be done by anyone? The law has to be inforced, at the very least with a conviction, it cannot be swept under the carpet I'm appalled with the carry on, she was merely going for ratings for her show:x_x:
This sums up the issue nicely.
TV3's gun purchase story may have created a problem not fixed one, says barrister - National - NZ Herald News
There was no problem.
Plan and simple she has broken the law and should face the consequences.
This article says she can't use a "public interest" defence
Lawyer claims data shows criminals never interested in mail-order gun 'loophole' | Stuff.co.nz
Canterbury University media law expert Professor Ursula Cheer said journalists had to weigh up the risk of prosecution when they operated on the fringes of the law pursuing "public interest" stories.
Equally, police also had the discretion not to pursue a prosecution.
"Although the police have the power to search the homes of journalists, there is case law that states this should not be done in a heavy-handed way," Cheer said.
"So such searches should not be used unless truly essential and there must not be a substantial risk of journalistic sources drying up."
She added there was a common misconception that in cases such as du Plessis-Allan's, a journalist could claim a public interest defense.
That was only available in civil matters, such as when media defended themselves from defamation accusations
Just to put some perspective on this. You have the right, in New Zealand, to say "I am maintaining my right to silence" when question by the Police. This applies to you, me, your mate, your mother and everyone. This is the reason we have appropriate judicial law in NZ, rather than the ad-loc random legal process in Russia, Malaysia, Thailand, USA and many other countries. Want to live in a country where the answer to a Police question comes from the end of a baton ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommy
Just because you may disagree with the particular circumstances doesn't dilute the process you have the option to exercise.
The posts for death, evisceration, and avoidance of a legal process we all all entitled to, is today in NZ, somewhat sickening. Simply because of an opinion people have, publicly.
Discussion is one thing, rampant mob behaviour because of the belief and obsession one is right, is quite sad.