Thread: Useing the firearms register

Originally Posted by No.3

Because of the way databases work

You mean that's the way 1990s databases work.

Originally Posted by vulcannz

You mean that's the way 1990s databases work.

So, the new firearms register database then.

Originally Posted by vulcannz

You mean that's the way 1990s databases work.

With SAP isn't that what we've got?

data base wont be that accurate if you cant enter accurate data

Originally Posted by Three O'Three

Why couldn't they make it simply by having boxes on their website that we fill/type out the firearms make, model, caliber, serial number etc

Because that would be to easy. Government websites aren't allowed to be user friendly coz government....... If it worked right first time how are the consultants going to get rich?

Originally Posted by Steve123

Because that would be to easy. Government websites aren't allowed to be user friendly coz government....... If it worked right first time how are the consultants going to get rich?

Aparently built on SAP their consultants will get very rich.

The problems noted above are somewhat concerning to say the least.

No, it's more to do with the fact that free text fields will result in multiple variations of the same thing, full stops at the end, spaces etc, which pollute the database and make it difficult to get meta data and statistics

Rifle, shotgun, pistol, serial no should be all they need....why do they need to know cal etc?

Originally Posted by blip

Rifle, shotgun, pistol, serial no should be all they need....why do they need to know cal etc?

So when they start restricting ammo sales, they will know what you can buy. Conspiracy? Look at other countries with registers. When confiscations of "high power" firearms start ie WA and Canada, they will know how many of what to confiscate.
To repeat myself this is a political undertaking.

Originally Posted by blip

Rifle, shotgun, pistol, serial no should be all they need....why do they need to know cal etc?

I guess if a serial numbers ground off being able to search by make, model, calibre and see which have been stolen would make it a hell of a lot easier to trace back if recovered

What crims grinding serial nos off....no way thats illegal

I've got a winchester .22 single shot that has no serial number, I asked the arms team on the phone what to do and they just said "it will have a serial number, even rifles from the 1800's have serial numbers", but even after being told that, It still doesn't have a serial number. I was aslo told that there no point delaying using the register because next year buying ammo will be a triggering event....

Originally Posted by PadLo

I've got a winchester .22 single shot that has no serial number, I asked the arms team on the phone what to do and they just said "it will have a serial number, even rifles from the 1800's have serial numbers", but even after being told that, It still doesn't have a serial number. I was aslo told that there no point delaying using the register because next year buying ammo will be a triggering event....

A: Stock up on ammo now. B:In politics, next year is a long way off. C: Screw them.

Originally Posted by PadLo

I've got a winchester .22 single shot that has no serial number, I asked the arms team on the phone what to do and they just said "it will have a serial number, even rifles from the 1800's have serial numbers", but even after being told that, It still doesn't have a serial number. I was aslo told that there no point delaying using the register because next year buying ammo will be a triggering event....

Unless they just gave you some inside knowledge what they said was totally incorrect. June 25 ammo kicks in. It's in THEIR website.
However, my predicition is if the register doesn't populate at their expected rate they may pull a swifty and bring the ammo date fwd.

Just invent a number of your own and engrave it. I did 2 shotguns a couple of years ago (nothing to do with the register back then) and just concocted numbers which were a combination of my street address mixed up plus 5 other random numbers.
I used a pneumatic pen but a vibratory engraver will do the same job. Simple.

Originally Posted by PadLo

I've got a winchester .22 single shot that has no serial number, I asked the arms team on the phone what to do and they just said "it will have a serial number, even rifles from the 1800's have serial numbers", but even after being told that, It still doesn't have a serial number. I was aslo told that there no point delaying using the register because next year buying ammo will be a triggering event....

I watched the talk that Te Tari Pukeko gave to the Auckland Antique Arms Accoc on YouTube. This question came up as some of the guys there have very old firearms without a serial number. Apparently they expect you to deface your firearm and add a serial number. If I recall correctly at that time of the video they were writing some guidelines for this situation that hadn't yet been published.