Thread: we are up against stupidity

Originally Posted by Zedrex

according to UNODC data Australia v's NZ stacks up as follows

Location	Region	Subregion	Intentional homicide victims per 100,000 inhabitants	Estimate of civilian firearms per 100 persons	Total firearm-related death rate per 100,000 inhabitants

Australia *

Oceania

Australia, New Zealand

0.9

14.5

0.88

New Zealand *

Oceania

Australia, New Zealand

2.6

26.3

1.24

I'm not for one minute defending Gillespies BS article, just your comment got me curious, the above is from wiki so can't verify it's accuracy

I'm not a big beliver in stats as they can be twisted by the questions and how they're asked.
But in saying that one thing I noticed was that the Australian stats show almost the same numbers for Firearm related deaths and Intentional homicide while NZ shows a much lower ratio of Firearm related deaths vs Intentional homicide.
guns or no guns people will always find a way to kill each other if that's what they want.