Thread: we are up against stupidity

Originally Posted by No.3

Um, if you look at the numbers in the link you posted it shows the smallest number as 4 dead?

Unsure where the '5 dead' number you quote comes from as there isn't actually a defined number - it is generally considered that it is 'between 3 and 5 dead' and most tally civilians separately to Police, military and other Govt workers (war events like the 200-odd soldiers killed in WWII, and also Aboriginal incidents are not included - documentation reasons for the latter mostly).

What is interesting for the Aussie model is that the Port Arthur law changes are accepted as being the reason for a substantial reduction in the amount of firearms related homicide in Australia but also that the stats are only considered through to 2005 or so. Most studies predate this time period. After this time period it doesn't seem that there are studies? Also, it would seem to me that the stats show an uptick in firearms related multiple casualty events after this period - although without recent studies it is hard to interpret the lists of events...

It is 4 casualties, excluding the shooter according to the articles criteria.