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So while I waited for my FAL I decided to sit a first aid course to brush up. Had been several years since the last...
Anyways I take my first aid kit out with me, and it's one I had set up for trail riding and dirt biking, but thinking I should probably set one up specifically for hunting.
What is in your first aid kit that ISN'T included in a basic kit from the store?
Duct tape
The question should be what isn't in your first aid kit that is in a basic kit for the store? Reason? You have to carry it. That said, some people like to add Celox and tourniquets.
Nowadays - a PLB
Yep, that's importantQuote:
Originally Posted by Oscar
TQ, Israeli bandage, wound packing gauze, standard bandage for wrapping/strapping, pain relief (have some left over Tramadol). Medical/strapping tape (good for strapping ankles or covering blisters). Odds and ends like band aids and antihistamines.
I'd be super cautious of really strong pain relief like Tramadol in a bush type situation - in the wrong situation it could be very incapacitating or increase your risk of hypothermia etc.
Whatever you elect to carry in your first aid kit - you need to 1) be able to get to the kit, and easily get into it (have seen people that wrap their kits in armour plating so it doesn't get wet etc but no thought in how to get to it worst case one handed etc) and 2) when you do get into it do you know what's in each package?
The flash Israeli style bandages and fancy clot-promoting penetrating wound fillers are super effective and really good, but if you buy one consider buying two so you can open one up and practice and get familiar with it and leave it open to show others...
Glad wrap for burns. About 3 meters folded into a zip lock baggie. Camp cooking can be dangerous with wobbly little burners and pots with no handles...
chech out one of the numerous other threads on this one....
a couple of panadol a couple of antihistimine and a roll of insulation tape.
yes there was lots on a previous thread seemed many carry way to much
Jumpin on this thread to ask. For medications/pills etc - how do y'all carry them ? I have pill sheets in my med bag (panadol, water purification tablets, hayfever, ibuprofen etc etc) but I've found after several trips and being squeezed in my pack the foil gets ripped or damaged making the pills either loose or useless.
Cheers
I have 3-4 small baggies with a couple different pills in each. Codine, anti histamine etc. I keep the few baggies in a small pill container.Quote:
Originally Posted by HarryMax
If you take the meds out of their packaging you should definitely label them.
Abdo pad/gauze/israeli bandage/TQ
Strapping tape
SAM splint
Triangle bandages
Antihistamines
Paracetamol
Ibuprofen
PLB
Found this to be basic but will stop a serious bleed and splint a broken bone.
Let's be honest, either you're walking out or you're not. No point lugging around a hospital.
Day trip:
- Aquatabs
- Paracetamol
- Celecoxib
- Codeine
- Aspirin
- Elastoplast
- Dermabond
- Emergency blanket
- Compass (spare)
- Torch/battery
- PLB
Overnight trip:
- As above
- Dextrose tablets
- Celox
- Gauze
- Betadine
- Medical tape
- Matches/firelighter/tinder
Aspirin is for suspected heart attack.
one small plastic pill container....about the size of your thumbQuote:
Originally Posted by HarryMax
Old school 35mm film canisters I still have a few lying around
:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Happy Jack
Duct tape does everything a bandage can do and more, also useful to put on back of pills so they don't wear out the backing.
Army tricks. Duct tape and a a few fem pads.
They teach drabcd - danger response airway, breathing circulation defib, works if u close to town when ambos are 5-10 mins out , rural / gunshots etc completely different. Stop major bleeding 1st then the rest, strongly recommend a remote 1st aid course. St John's calls it remote responder. Completely different kettle of fish than your std course.
Take a leather glove to cook with worth the little bit of weightQuote:
Originally Posted by Bol Tackshin
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Same as the prepper thread - learn and carry skills rather than kit.
Prevention does beat cure every time!Quote:
Originally Posted by erniec
A pencil and a notepad. If you unable to talk for yourself it may help to write down what happened before hand.
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https://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co....aid-kit-69199/
https://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co....id-kits-81044/
There's a couple more I can recall, but for some reason not able to search the forum.
Common themes:
- only take what you know how to use
- practise using it
- have it somewhere accessible so you can use it.
I think it was a very honest post from HotBarrels linked in one of the threads above which is well worth a read - good lesson for all of us!
Sorry Sharki, but another common response I think was also the move away from tampons/pads, as they absorb blood, rather than stopping it, which I guess makes sense.
Look after yourselves team. Or continue doing fun shit, but just know how to fix the consequences.
Accidents do happen thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Bol Tackshin
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Some of you guys carry a lot of gear, my advice get trained to use your gear.
As a first responder I carry fuck all first aid gear but I take a kit everywhere and no how to use it.
As hunter its really only the cold thats going to kill us or bleeding we can't stop, that could be from a sun hardened Manuka through the leg or a knife slip, most of the gear mentioned above really isn't going to stop that.
I'd recommend something with Celox in it, these kits here a bloody good, throw some pandol in if that's your thing, and you good go.
https://ktservices.nz/product/hunters-first-aid-kit/
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Pad can only absorb so much if u duct tape it down real hard, which u wanna do
The other really handy bit I forgot is small spare head torch and cheap cheap reading glasses, I can see a flies arse at 50m , but need to hold stuff away further than my arms can reach nowadays
Yep.Quote:
Originally Posted by BRADS
Lets face it, a hit from a modern sporting round from any of the usual hunting suspects - and you are not going to have any success buying lotto tickets if you survive because you've used up all of your luck and then some. These rounds are designed to effectively drop some pretty tough animals, and by comparison humans aren't pretty tough as we only carry our weight on two legs. It's a design limitation... Any hunting or sporting bullet expanding is going to do far more internal damage than you can carry gear for and even with celox cavity sealing products you won't have fluids and gear to use it to replace what's lost. Best option in my book is some form of tourniquet that you know how to use (the Ukrainians are reporting some intriguing stats and some of their people have apparently gone away from the CAT-style that we have adopted - not sure why and don't have any more details on it). That will minimise blood loss through a severe limb wound, anything else like a torso/center mass impact and you aren't having a good day. Just too far from help.
That sort of dictates the sizing for your first aid kit and what you need to be thinking about putting in in terms of injuries, and a stab from a Manuka - leave it in the hole if you can as it's already plugging it!