Just recently I saw a reference (on here I think) of a way to build a very secure gun room using a combination of plywood and a fabric sawstop type stuff. Dammed if I can find it again . . . any clues??
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Just recently I saw a reference (on here I think) of a way to build a very secure gun room using a combination of plywood and a fabric sawstop type stuff. Dammed if I can find it again . . . any clues??
There was a mention recently about using 2mm steel and then gluing ply on the outside
That stuff chainsaw chaps are made from could be interesting to use , see if it clogs up a angle grinder ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tentman
Dunno about fabric but the usual deal is steel concrete mesh sheets screwed to plywood with the ply facing outwards
My question is why would you put ply onto a steel safe?? Maybe a dumb question sorry but seems a bit strange to do such a thing
Hamish
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Maybe so the thieves instantly bugger their skilsaw? :thumbsup:
Not plywood, use MDF glued to the inside. First it makes it much more robust should someone try to use a tool to puncture and rip it. But more importantly it bloody near kills any power tool such as a grinder or metal saw. The blade gets way too hot, goes blunt very quick, and the smoke created is pretty damned dangerous to any would be thief. Very effective
Not necessarily ply, but usually thick MDF or chip boards. More impact or bend resistant (Think hammers and pry bars...) and if done well, you can make it look like its NOT a firearms cupboard. If they cant find it they cant open it....I have seen a couple of clever ones that unless you knew guns were in there, you wouldn't even notice they were cupboards.Quote:
Originally Posted by HNTMAD
Another method was to run a batton over the hinge screws so that the hinges are between two layers of material.If someone trys to pry the hinges, then they have to sheer the screws as the force is no longer being applied to the head of the screw. The stronger the batton is attached the stronger the hinges are held.
Thing is if the want it they will get it. Each to their own I guess but seems like a whole lot of extra work to me
Hamish
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Dynamite is all a good thief needs, or how about a drill and a very high pressure compressor blow it apart with air pressure, a small atom bomb ?, some people seem to overthink gun security,I would think very few are stolen from safes in houses, probably found lying around the house or sheds or in vehicles, amazingly we get very few insurance quotes for safes.
Hurricane mesh between two layers of half inch mdf is the best Ive heard of for a home build. Munts skillsaw, chokes you if using a grinder
And a sledge hammer sort of bounces
Just cover your wooden gun safe with flax that shit will tangle up chainsaws faster then you can start them.
Thanks guys, it must have been the mdf that I read . . . as chain stop. My current safe is a fairly good quality steel one but the way its placed its vulnerable to a cut-off saw or angle grinder (and its not big enough) so a very small gun-room is "on order".
I'm thinking I'll line walls and ceiling with glued ply/MDF/mesh/MDF which will give a nice finish that matches other stuff in the house. Commercial multi bolted steel door with combination lock (did anyone else gulp a bit when they saw @SAVAGE 's post about thieves finding keys)??
Check the NZ Police website there is the specs for building a strong room, there are door reinforcing pins they fit in the door near the hinges if the hinges are cut the door will not open,
My first gun storage was a built in wardrobe with a solid wooden door fitted with the pins and a commercial grade mortice deadbolt only stored A cat rifles pistol were in a 10mm steel box
in the same wardrobe, ammo was in the second wardrobe with a deadbolt on the door, The AO was very happy with the setup the room looked normal,
Making a solid door is easy a sandwich of plywood, 16g steel and MDF is not hard to make with heavy duty hinges and reinforcing pins a good quality deadbolt will stop the opportunist burglar