Thread: Wtf

Tx Dougie, seems bit crazy huh ?

I still struggle to get my head around the concept of handing a firearm to someone that does not have a license... If this happens on a designated range, under the supervision of a RO, all good, but out in the bush it just seems like an accident waiting to happen.

Of course most of these deaths are caused by folks who already have a license, so probably won't change anything changing that part of the law. But I would really like to see some provision preventing a person from handling a firearm (at least for a good wee while).

Just my 5c, I'm sure others will disagree

Originally Posted by ebf

Tx Dougie, seems bit crazy huh ?

I still struggle to get my head around the concept of handing a firearm to someone that does not have a license... If this happens on a designated range, under the supervision of a RO, all good, but out in the bush it just seems like an accident waiting to happen.

Of course most of these deaths are caused by folks who already have a license, so probably won't change anything changing that part of the law. But I would really like to see some provision preventing a person from handling a firearm (at least for a good wee while).

Just my 5c, I'm sure others will disagree

Yep I totally agree but am a realist and can see this not happening ever in NZ.

I'm the same with you on the supervision thing, and as you well know I pick and choose my hunting buddies even when they DO have a licence!

I've had a few people ask me to take their kids out. To be honest, nothing scared me more. I can take responsibility for my own shots and wounded animals, but not other's!

I really don't like handing the rifle over to my other half either, even though it makes him pissy.

It looks like a lump of plastic and metal but the reality is, that thing is a whole lot of responsibility.



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Originally Posted by ebf

I still struggle to get my head around the concept of handing a firearm to someone that does not have a license... If this happens on a designated range, under the supervision of a RO, all good, but out in the bush it just seems like an accident waiting to happen.

Doesn't the 'supervision' requirement mean that the person with a licence is supposed to be in a position to take control of the firearm at any time? One firearm in use per licence holder and so on. Obviously people don't always do it that way, but I think thats what the rules say.

So if you're using one rifle and giving your unlicenced mate one to use as well, you aren't supervising them.

Originally Posted by GravelBen

Doesn't the 'supervision' requirement mean that the person with a licence is supposed to be in a position to take control of the firearm at any time? One firearm in use per licence holder and so on. Obviously people don't always do it that way, but I think thats what the rules say.

Yes it does, but that is not what happens in the real world. On a range, maybe. Out in the bush or the back paddock it is a very different story.

Originally Posted by ebf

Yes it does, but that is not what happens in the real world. On a range, maybe. Out in the bush or the back paddock it is a very different story.

For the real simple buggers can you explain how's it different in the back paddock?
Never been two a range but imagine some RO are Rambo dudes dealing with multiple range only shooters?

Originally Posted by ebf

Yes it does, but that is not what happens in the real world. On a range, maybe. Out in the bush or the back paddock it is a very different story.

Still how I do it with the other half (one rifle, me and him) and it still scares the shit outta me sometimes!! He says I'm a rifle hog...I say I'm preventing an accident.

Originally Posted by Dougie

I say I'm preventing an accident.

I love the softly, softly, gentle approach Dougie. I'm the same. I am there and within very quick reach.