Wtf

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Originally Posted by Ryan

Personally I'd like to see the introduction of conscription.

I must emphasise that it's not a panacea for society's ills, but it does instill a sense of discipline, responsibility, self respect, teamwork, pride and a respect for authority. Learn how to push themselves beyond what they thought was possible, learn skills that they didn't have.

For those who are ineligible (physical, objectors etc), a model similar to Germany's Zivildienst where non-soldiers would serve the community working in retirement homes, hospitals etc. I am aware that Germany no longer has a conscript army.

Of course I don't expect everyone to agree with me, it would be expensive to implement initially but I think that in the long term society would benefit from a skilled, productive, professional and caring young generation.

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That has been trialled in the past Ryan. The trouble was they then ended up fitter and about as well trained and better organised than your average copper. Looking at the shapes of a lot of our 'Boys in Blue' these days, ... I'll say no more. Oh, but I did hear some great stories from days of yore.

It's certainly true that it is an immense benefit to police that crims are so short-sighted and just plain thick - we don't want to train them up to become smarter

As pointed out earlier in the thread, even having the worst penalty available would not stop something like that bag-snatching streak of piss that has been in the news lately - these wee scrotes just do not connect cause and effect at all.

I don't give a shit about their pathetic little lives of crime - I despair at how much $$$ they cost society - maybe we should start lacing P with rat poison? Is it wrong that I find that amusing?

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Originally Posted by 308

It's certainly true that it is an immense benefit to police that crims are so short-sighted and just plain thick - we don't want to train them up to become smarter

As pointed out earlier in the thread, even having the worst penalty available would not stop something like that bag-snatching streak of piss that has been in the news lately - these wee scrotes just do not connect cause and effect at all.

I don't give a shit about their pathetic little lives of crime - I despair at how much $$$ they cost society - maybe we should start lacing P with rat poison? Is it wrong that I find that amusing?

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Cunning plan

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Originally Posted by Ryan

Personally I'd like to see the introduction of conscription.

I must emphasise that it's not a panacea for society's ills, but it does instill a sense of discipline, responsibility, self respect, teamwork, pride and a respect for authority. Learn how to push themselves beyond what they thought was possible, learn skills that they didn't have.

For those who are ineligible (physical, objectors etc), a model similar to Germany's Zivildienst where non-soldiers would serve the community working in retirement homes, hospitals etc. I am aware that Germany no longer has a conscript army.

Of course I don't expect everyone to agree with me, it would be expensive to implement initially but I think that in the long term society would benefit from a skilled, productive, professional and caring young generation.

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No thanks, been there, got the T-shirt (and the mental scars).

Ryan, we probably won't agree on this, but IMHO a whole generation of our pale compatriots ended up with a significant number suffering from PTSD in varying degrees and major anger management issues exactly because of the fact that they were conscripted...

I have a lot of respect for people willing to make sacrifices and serve in the armed forces, but conscription is not the answer.

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Originally Posted by Sidney

If thats the strength of your argument.... self classification won't fix it for you....

The shit throwing started with someone else.... nothing in my original post has actually been challenged, contested with any semblance of logical contribution. The response was pure emotional bullshit. Ahhhh yes, Sydney - however this is not a court of law, nor even a debating chamber, It is, if you like, a court of personal opinion, to which we are all entitled and you are as wong in saying everyone else is wrong as everyone else is, in saying you are wrong. OPinions are like arseholes - we all have one.

If you want to not be classified with the hanging mob, then don't behave like them.

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I I I I

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Originally Posted by keneff

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