Both are turkish made tho, it aint the old W&S despite its name from what I've read... I did read on an Amercian forum the W&S were coming up with a problem of both firing pins going off at times, not sure mechanically how that works or how often that happens but it was enough to put me off from buying one (as well as its fit didn't suit me)... The other issue I had with the W&S was that the safety catch was too smooth and provided no grip for the finger to push it forward properly, every time I was pushing it forward my sweaty thumb were slipping... all in all I said "bugger it" Y-banger is the safer and proven option given the feedback from others.
Agree on some of the sxs 20gs the CZ are making, if memory serves me right they had a "Woodcock" model 20g with english stock that looked primo - (I think they are made in the land of Donald Trump? could be wrong).
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