Thread: 20ga or 410 for beginners?

it beggars belief that a father would take son out jump shooting and get within 25 yards of geese and NOT let him have a crack......or finishing off woundies 2 days after pros with big .12g have had a big bomb up and father n son take dogs and go searching around the rushes etc

that 25yard thing is IT with the 410....inside 25 yards its more than capable of holding its own with the bigger guages...and Ive seen young fellas drop big black swans with it too...big long vunerable neck to hit.