Thread: Copper cover lead shot

Can anyone explain the rationale behind the copper covered lead shot manufactured by Elley.

I went in looking for some non toxic shot for an older shotgun and was pushed towards this.

When I asked if it was legal over water, I got the nudge nudge, wink wink and was told that it's up for the courts to decide.

Does the copper coating provide any benefits, or is it just a lazy attempt to circumvent the lead restrictions

Originally Posted by Manchester

Can anyone explain the rationale behind the copper covered lead shot manufactured by Elley.

I went in looking for some non toxic shot for an older shotgun and was pushed towards this.

When I asked if it was legal over water, I got the nudge nudge, wink wink and was told that it's up for the courts to decide.

Does the copper coating provide any benefits, or is it just a lazy attempt to circumvent the lead restrictions

Nod, nod, wink, wink.

You can probably guess which outdoor sports chain I purchased it from then. nudge nudge wink wink

Laws aside, if all lead shot was epoxy or powder coated, would there be any poisoning issue from fowl or cattle accidentally ingesting some?

Originally Posted by Cordite

Laws aside, if all lead shot was epoxy or powder coated, would there be any poisoning issue from fowl or cattle accidentally ingesting some?

I doubt the integrity of the coating would remain 100% intact upon firing let alone cope with being chewed on or being ground-up in a birds gizzard.

Its plated to make it supposidly pattern better and kill better. No other reason. Its still lead shot so nudge nudge wink wink if you used it on water fowl you would be f@#ked if caught

if the store sold it to you to hunt waterfowl...they need to be named and shamed none of this nudge nudge wink wink bull shit....out the buggers and tell fish n game about it.... the sooner EVERYONE plays by the same set of rules the better....
doing illegal stuff just gives ANTIs more ammunition to use against law abiding shooting and hunting sports....

Does copper go brown and rust in water like steel? Leads inert in water?

it would turn green into verdigris?? which IS toxic if anything......

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

it would turn green into verdigris?? which IS toxic if anything......

One of the worse problems with the Rena sinking is the copper and the salt water

Originally Posted by Manchester

Can anyone explain the rationale behind the copper covered lead shot manufactured by Elley.

I went in looking for some non toxic shot for an older shotgun and was pushed towards this.

When I asked if it was legal over water, I got the nudge nudge, wink wink and was told that it's up for the courts to decide.

Does the copper coating provide any benefits, or is it just a lazy attempt to circumvent the lead restrictions

properly more they ordered the wrong shit and now are trying to move it along

My take on it was lazy salesmanship.
I wanted bismuth and they were out.

Not a surprise really from the green hunting shop

great shot untill you bite into it.
reduces deformation more shot on target.
TOTALY ILEGAL FOR GAMEBIRDS OF THE WATERFOWL VARIETY INCLUDING GEESE ON ANY DOC F&G MANAGED OR PRIVATE WATER and within 200 metres of anything water wider than decent road.

ARE you 100% positive on the goose thing...private water......geese no longer come under the umbrella of fish n game so,where do the rules come into play.

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

ARE you 100% positive on the goose thing...private water......geese no longer come under the umbrella of fish n game so,where do the rules come into play.

you could be right as far as private water goes as if its outside duck season
but it would take some explaining if it was duck season and you said you were just shooting geese.
i,l clarify with f&g