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Thread: Cycling Issues - Suggestions from the learned among you.

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    Cycling Issues - Suggestions from the learned among you.

    No! This has nothing to do with Rushy’s fat arse being too big for the bike seat.

    I recently purchase a replacement shotgun for the evil Typhoon F12 that I will hand in at the local Police Station at 16:59 on 20th December. I am now the proud owner of a Benelli M3 which is a nice little fun gun that can quickly switch between semi automatic and pump action modes.

    Up to now I have been happily using these in my Typhoon:
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    but these will not cycle properly in the Benelli with there being a stoppage between every shot. Even an old man like me can work out there is not enough grunt in the cunt to push the breech block back far enough to eject and pick up the next round. I proved this with some double ought and number four buck shot, both of which cycled fine.

    The supplier that I purchased the gun from gave me a box of these:
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    I blew the box away down on my range yesterday and they all cycled well. This confirmed to me that it is all about the oomph factor but I am concerned that the number five shot will be frowned on by the club IPSC convener.

    Do any of you more ardent shot gunners out there have any suggestions? I am particularly interested to know whether there is a gruntier seven and a half shot round that I might try.
    It takes 43 muscle's to frown and 17 to smile, but only 3 for proper trigger pull.
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    Is there a gas block you can adjust?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russian 22. View Post
    Is there a gas block you can adjust?
    Nope. It is inertia driven.
    It takes 43 muscle's to frown and 17 to smile, but only 3 for proper trigger pull.
    What more do we need? If we are above ground and breathing the rest is up to us!
    Rule 1: Treat every firearm as loaded
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    Rule 3: Load a firearm only when ready to fire
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    Rule 5: Check your firing zone
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    Rule 7: Avoid alcohol and drugs when handling firearms

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    And here I am thinking the ol'fool has gone down the Lycra highway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidGunn View Post
    And here I am thinking the ol'fool has gone down the Lycra highway.
    Ha ha ha ha that would make the evening news and people would be scarred for a lifetime from the watching of it. The thread being opened in the Shotgun section should have been a clue.
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    It takes 43 muscle's to frown and 17 to smile, but only 3 for proper trigger pull.
    What more do we need? If we are above ground and breathing the rest is up to us!
    Rule 1: Treat every firearm as loaded
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    Rule 3: Load a firearm only when ready to fire
    Rule 4: Identify your target beyond all doubt
    Rule 5: Check your firing zone
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rushy View Post
    Ha ha ha ha that would make the evening news and people would be scarred for a lifetime from the watching of it. The thread being opened in the Shotgun section should have been a clue.
    It came up under 'new posts' so never looked under what section...clues are wasted on the clueless.

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    Padded or hard stock? Will make a marginal difference for inertia driven semi to be hard(er) up against the shoulder.

    Heavy sight on the gun? Again will make a marginal difference to the inertia drive.

    Alternatively, just use the pump action facility for those rounds.
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    Literally just try any other trap load. Sometimes guns just don't like a brand.

    Look for something with the highest velocity I would suggest falcon V3 which runs at 1350fps or something similiar.

    Falcon also makes a 32gram 7 1/2 for handicap in aus. Cant remember the name but you should be able to get your hands on some via reloaders or one of your locals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PerazziSC3 View Post
    Literally just try any other trap load. Sometimes guns just don't like a brand.

    Look for something with the highest velocity I would suggest falcon V3 which runs at 1350fps or something similiar.

    Falcon also makes a 32gram 7 1/2 for handicap in aus. Cant remember the name but you should be able to get your hands on some via reloaders or one of your locals.
    Ta
    It takes 43 muscle's to frown and 17 to smile, but only 3 for proper trigger pull.
    What more do we need? If we are above ground and breathing the rest is up to us!
    Rule 1: Treat every firearm as loaded
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    Rule 3: Load a firearm only when ready to fire
    Rule 4: Identify your target beyond all doubt
    Rule 5: Check your firing zone
    Rule 6: Store firearms and ammunition safely
    Rule 7: Avoid alcohol and drugs when handling firearms

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    I’ll give you $10 for it? Looking for a new gun for Hares.
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    Boom, cough,cough,cough

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    Wait I see the prob. That ammos for professionals, shop owner will be pissing himself?
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    Boom, cough,cough,cough

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    Clever and clever lite are 1oz loads that cycle erratically in semis due to the lowish velocity and shot charge not giving enough recoil energy to cycle the action. They do work quite well in gas operated guns and run in inertia guns though.
    Those std 1 1/5th loads obviously give more of a thump.
    The club i belong too used to buy clever but has gone to target products because of availability. Their olympic and v1 seem to cycle semis fine.
    Yours will improve with wear im sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maca49 View Post
    Wait I see the prob. That ammos for professionals, shop owner will be pissing himself?
    Arse wipe!
    It takes 43 muscle's to frown and 17 to smile, but only 3 for proper trigger pull.
    What more do we need? If we are above ground and breathing the rest is up to us!
    Rule 1: Treat every firearm as loaded
    Rule 2: Always point firearms in a safe direction
    Rule 3: Load a firearm only when ready to fire
    Rule 4: Identify your target beyond all doubt
    Rule 5: Check your firing zone
    Rule 6: Store firearms and ammunition safely
    Rule 7: Avoid alcohol and drugs when handling firearms

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marty Henry View Post
    Clever and clever lite are 1oz loads that cycle erratically in semis due to the lowish velocity and shot charge not giving enough recoil energy to cycle the action. They do work quite well in gas operated guns and run in inertia guns though.
    Those std 1 1/5th loads obviously give more of a thump.
    The club i belong too used to buy clever but has gone to target products because of availability. Their olympic and v1 seem to cycle semis fine.
    Yours will improve with wear im sure.
    Thanks Marty. Yes I reckon that with time I will re try the original ammo and may well have an entirely different result.
    It takes 43 muscle's to frown and 17 to smile, but only 3 for proper trigger pull.
    What more do we need? If we are above ground and breathing the rest is up to us!
    Rule 1: Treat every firearm as loaded
    Rule 2: Always point firearms in a safe direction
    Rule 3: Load a firearm only when ready to fire
    Rule 4: Identify your target beyond all doubt
    Rule 5: Check your firing zone
    Rule 6: Store firearms and ammunition safely
    Rule 7: Avoid alcohol and drugs when handling firearms

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    If the gun is new it may need some running in as well, although as previous comments have stated you may just need some with a little more boot.
    Strange thing is that my old browning A5 has the swappable rings for recoil/operation. In the orientation for heavy loads, it works just fine with the trap loads I'm using.
    probably velocity has a bit to do with it as well.

 

 

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