Thread: "Desperately seeking", no not Susan, a 12 bore load with fibre,not plastic wads.

Originally Posted by Kiwi Sapper

Nah...........My mental picture of you is that one of these is more your style...........

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yeah, my mental pic of you is a uneducated WINZ 'client' who has a gun Illegally.

Originally Posted by nowool

yeah, why don't stuff a 7.62x54 up the chamber of a .303...all 3.11 diameter bullets the same!

come on fella,thats a bit harsh.......I dont put up suggestions like that lightly and a wad exchange will alter pressure BUT not to gun blow up levels..... an ill fitting fibre wab that wont seal bore as efficently as a plastic skirted wad will have less pressure than the plastic if basic physics are applied......
feel free to correct me if Im wrong.
and for what its worth there is at least one 7.62x54R SMLE around and working fine.....new barrel and all,gets shot out to respectable range too.....

Originally Posted by nowool

safe loading for older 2.5 inch barrels.
https://youtu.be/gHYAltIRL98

PLASTIC WADS........... so you have contributed no more intelligence into discussion as anyone else,nore a solution fitting the brief.

Originally Posted by GDMP

Eley still make both 2.5" and 2" 12 bore cartridges with fiber wads,and often with paper cases as well.....if its for a classic older gun surely ordering some of these might be the best bet.Maybe even a group buy?.

That I understand and did point out I knew of them in my opening post of this thread. Further, a kind gun owner , after being approached by Wilson's Hunting and Outdoors supplied me with 50 rounds. Just what I want and which of course could be reloaded after use.
I also have the ability to reduce hulls greater than 2 1/2 inch to 2 1/2 inch, have suitable wads, an MEC that will reload 2 1/2 inch hulls and suitable shot along with a collection of fired and unfired paper hulls.

But that still leaves me pondering about a suitable powder.

Charts for "Lead shot English Game Loads" , sourced from Ballistic Products give loads using Hogdons "Titewad" and Alliant Bullseye, but I have neither. However, I do have Trail Boss which the ADI web site states is their comparable product for Bullseye ......Oohh Errrrrrrrrr.......Dare I?

https://tinyurl.com/yp4b9d7f

So I'll probably load a couple of hulls with Trailboss ( which I have) in lieu of Bullseye along with Ballistic Products recommended fibre wads and a less than 1 ounce load for a test in a modern day boom stick. When I get up the courage and trust that no wool doesn't report me to Constable Plod or WINZ. :>)

Originally Posted by GDMP

Just use the correct powder the recipe calls for....that should go without saying.If you have none then obtain some.

Of course I must use the correct powder the recipe calls for.
Of course I must, if I don't have it, then obtain some.

However, you ignore that I have already pointed out that ADI powders website states that their Trail Boss is equivalent to Alliant's Bullseye" which is equivalent to IMR's Trail Boss, subject to:

"Note: This table shows only approximate equivalent values within about 5%. Actual burning rates can vary depending on the calibre, firearm, loading components and practices, as well as from powder lot to lot. As a consequence, it must be understood that Australian Munitions cannot accept any responsibility for the use of this information in any way."

However, if you can tell me how I can get either Hogdon's Titewad or Alliant's Bullseye then I would be most grateful because the current powder shortages and inability of any of them to be sent around the country is a problem.

Telling me the obvious however, does not attract any gratitude.

Originally Posted by GDMP

Right....this place has them....and Gunworks also has them,at $136 a slab.......https://www.shooterssupplies.co.nz/p...on-22212-slab/

Sadly, Not So

Gunworks..............Everything we have is on our website and so I don’t think we have what you need sorry

Shooterssupplies........Nil stock.

Have a look at Hogdons HS6 or 7 and aggod look at their other shotgun rl data.

Ah hs6.. Sim to win 540 powder. I'll have a look I may have some spare of that.

Originally Posted by GDMP

Right....this place has them....and Gunworks also has them,at $136 a slab.......https://www.shooterssupplies.co.nz/p...on-22212-slab/

@GDMP My gratitude and thanks Grant, for your perseverance in locating a couple of slabs of 2 1/2 inch cartridges. The pressure, FPS and shot load are just what I was seeking .The plastic wads I will have to live with until reloading time when I can address that using the information and fibre wads I have obtained from Ballistic Products. https://tinyurl.com/yukbbrt2

i use winchester aa cases cut to 2.5'', w209 primers ,16.8grains as30n from adi,hard card over powder wad,fiber wad to size for crimp.pressure is less than 7000 psi and velocity is just shy of 1200fps
i have used this load for about 3 years now and have had no problems ,its also a good load for teaching kids as there is stuff all kick

Anyone no where to source fiber wads from after some for 12 gauge .

anyone heard from kiwi sapper????