Oh yes but to hold one, caress that 1000 hours as I did with the Purdys a H&H in London! Selling the Bach to fund it wasn't on! The even had a second hand one with "Special New Zealand Model" on it.
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Oh yes but to hold one, caress that 1000 hours as I did with the Purdys a H&H in London! Selling the Bach to fund it wasn't on! The even had a second hand one with "Special New Zealand Model" on it.
"Special New Zealand Model" on it. ?? made for someone here
ElB it was about 50 thousand pounds I didn't get that far, guy said it was not unusual to have clients order a gun, with 6 weeks to finish after measuring and deciding on final finish etc, to write a 100 thousand pound cheque before leaving!
there are a few guys in this country that can do it, sadly i aint one either :oh noes:
the thing is there are Spanish makers that are possibly as good but charge less and but for only a name are less prestigious to own --the power of a brand !!!
Yes I wear Nike and drive a FORD!
doesn't mean you have any more fun or shoot better.i love my shotguns,they all have a story.yes i could sell the lot up and purchase a second hand gun of my choice,but i would doubt if such a gun would make me shoot better,i think it would detract as i would then be overly concerned with it's welfare. to scratch or not to scratch?
I wouldn't shoot it!:wtfsmilie:
id scratch bastard :D and carry on
Look what came into my office today! Thought it might make a nice 45/70 double rifle with a bit of work, blew the bottom barrel and what's left of those barrel are avail. Thinking of how to do it Attachment 26671Attachment 26672Attachment 26673Attachment 26674Attachment 26675
Can you have barrel's just welded on or is it easier to have the barrels put together then rebuild the bits that make it lock into the action/fore end?
you can't stay away from those merkel copies and honest spanish wood?
Those ferking merkels keep coming my way! This is a box lock the other was a side lock
lovely looking action! 12-15 k to rebarrel?
I'll wait till I see the rest of the barrels cause I think if they can be sleeved and welded on to the existing it will work better, ejectors will need modifying as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by Toby
I was thinking 1.2 to 1.5 to re barrel, don't spoil the dream!:wtfsmilie:Quote:
Originally Posted by el borracho
who will do all the work?
Me I hope with some help from some clever mates and some Norinco barrels!
Sunday afternoon stock bending of one of the two s/s sabel shotguns that arrived from the UK last week . Both nice guns but the Garbi feels more English and of a higher quality build --will post images later once I take someAttachment 27685Attachment 27686Attachment 27687Attachment 27688Attachment 27689Attachment 27690Attachment 27691Attachment 27692
good simple techniques there.did you buy your guns online and then have them shipped?
Nice, hope the wall hangs out with the side load!;)
yes i did buy online -got two as freight was the same for one or more . only trouble im having is putting the trigger guard back on -this gun is fitted tightly by the looks -to well made lol i need to do some bending but might get a smith to complete this or someone more competent than me !!
When you bend a stock through the wrist (depending how much you bend it), you will generally need to realign the face where the stock bolt tightens (otherwise tightening it just straightens it again) and recut the trigger guard inlet accordingly.
mmm im not that a flasher smith !!! if it comes back ill look at that but wait until that day
i doubt whether either of the sxs of EL B's have a bolt through the stock,being a straight english style stock they will have a long trigger tang. rather than re inletting the stock so it fits, it would be best to heat, bend(cut and tig weld if necessary) then hot blue the metal.not a job for the faint hearted. the Garbi would be the keeper? also el b. with your set up for bending,did you get any issues with the cant of the stock.ie. did it alter at all and how much cast did you achieve.
Oh dear, a wee bit of knowledge can be a dangerous thing, and cost heaps as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by el borracho
only needs a bend not surgery !
ill post soon but been sick with the flu and looking after 7 puppies is taxing lolQuote:
Originally Posted by lophortyx
A nice link to browning Damascus barrels . im going to search out a nice Damascus barreled s/s gun and have a play!! anyway worth a look and some fine examples grace this page .https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...nEM/edit?pli=1
I have a greener shotgun in the shed right now which has a damascus look about the barrels, they arent but just look that way. They will need to be brought back
to the original pattern and this will happen when doing the bluing
what mix are you going to use to do that?if it has the pattern it does mean different hard and soft steels blended in a damascus???i have a new book coming with a load of chemical blacking / browning formulas
-An Aussi site with some nice kit -turn screws ,oil bottles , leather and bits ..turnscrews.html
No idea on the steels but it is definelty not a damascus barrel. With regard to the book on bluing, if it is an American book you will find some older formulae that you can no longer use due to the chemicals in the mix For example, some of the very good mixs use what is known as corrosive sublimate i.e. mercuric choride, not good for the body and lungs, tends to fuck them up a tad. Other mixs use highly corrosive chemicals so the punter does need to be aware of this and be carefull.Quote:
Originally Posted by el borracho
There are also some chemicals that will rust the hell out of any steel tools in the workshop so you dont mix them up in a place where all your favourite tools are stored. Even one of the more simple rust blue recipes creates fumes that can ruin your day in a big way.
Oh an extra bit, the process of browning is the same as bluing, its just that you dont boil the steel off. I could go into the equipment required to do a proper job but my fingers are tired
yes the boiling will blacken the barrel if boiled . i am trying to get some better blacking liquid in , well see how that goes.the book i have is an oldy with all the witches brews im sure , its called Title: Firearm Blueing and Browning (Revised and updated
Author: R.H. Angier, Ned Schwing
From what I have seen there is only one bluing agent that can be imported to NZ. Most manufactors wont bother as it costs too much to get the proper export licence.
The one that can be imported is not that great. Angier is a old book and thence the old formulae will apply and therefore the warning as noted above does apply.
hopefully the revised and updated version has some modern recipes .. from the sixty's lol
my firearm blueing and browning by R H Angier ..foreword by Nick Schwing book arrived today --who would ever have thought id be excited reading a book on chemical mixes ??i have all the chemicals to make a rust blueing formula and cant wait to bottle that brew !!
started making my blackening brew today --freak the shit outta me !! I dont like dangerous chemicals especially ones the below out yellow brown smoke when adding the additives being regent grade Iron into 2 mix acid solution.Tomorrow Ill try more until the acid doesnt want to accept more Iron -it may take a week but im in no hurry .After that 5 litres of distilled water and then I pout it into coffee filters to take the good brew out leaving the shite .Hopefully next week Ill have that which one cannot buy in the shops !!! oh and real black barrels soon
It does pay to be careful when mixing that brew together.
I am going real slow -infact I am going to take 10th of the current brew of 600 cc hydrochloric and 400cc of the nitric to make the final brew as in retrospect I have made to much .I am at the stage of adding the Regent iron power to the mix and it smokes like a chimney which I keep well away from -I will then add the distilled water slowly in the smaller quantity of brew once the iron has caused the acid to stop eating it .I dont like playing with this stuff at all ! scares the hell outta me not being a person that has dabbled in this before
