7/8th or 1oz steel reloads in 12ga kill birds well too...they have much less recoil but are LOUD.....really loud...the ASteel powder goes off with a bang,I kept loads to 1550fpsish according to books it got my young fella into 12ga in the transistion seasons after great introduction with single barrel 410....and dont write one of them off either,that lad was deadly with it,he could finish off woundies better than we could ,with really good steel loads in 12ga... the list of birds dropped with 410 just about has nothing missing,off hand cant think what he DIDNT kill with it.
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