Thread: I may need a shotgun - Advice?

Hey guys,

After a bit of advice please. I think I need a shotgun but after something cheap say around $750. So have been looking at second hand semi autos and the main use will be clays and maybe a duck or two when the opportunity comes. Looked at the cheap Akkar ones in H&F but thought maybe a better quality second hand one could be a better choice.

I have been looking so far at Fabarm as a friend has one and likes it and some seem to sell at a reasonable price I also notice a couple people on here have mentioned good things about them. What should I be looking for when buying second hand and does anyone have anything?

I see TM has Fabarm listed but not sure on that model and what to compare it with. Fabarm Euro S 12 Gauge Shotgun | Trade Me

Have seen a few listings for H4 and the H368 etc.

I am in no rush so happy to keep looking but though it might be good to have some advice.

Cheers
Daniel

The ATA semis are quite nice - something like this. ATA 12G Auto Cent Syn/soft Duck 28" M/C - picture, come.the, ata, century, one, best, guns, ... - Serious Shooters

My cousins ATA keeps breaking its charging handle some how. Middle of shooting it just snaps off. Has done it twice now. Both in the same spot, could be a design flaw

Nothing wrong with the fabarms mate.

S/H skb or Miroku would be a good deal. 1/4 and 1/2 chokes

Stoeger M3000
12ga Stoeger 3000 Synthetic * Choose Barrel Length*

Mossberg 930 come up now and then for cheap

Originally Posted by mikee

S/H skb or Miroku would be a good deal. 1/4 and 1/2 chokes

or lamber or bakail all make very very nice U/O or SxS ......to shoot mainly clays and the odd duck or 12 thay will all do the job nicely, you don't NEED a semi to do the task you have set.

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

or lamber or bakail all make very very nice U/O or SxS ......to shoot mainly clays and the odd duck or 12 thay will all do the job nicely, you don't NEED a semi to do the task you have set.

yep agreed 100% (and picking up empties gets tiring fast shooting clays), but you don't want more than 1/2 choke if you are gonna shoot steel (and 3 inch chambers as well)

An akkar will do everything you want at a bloody sensible price. dont listen to all the shit about turkish guns -its just that shit.suggest you go U/O

turks make some very good guns for the money,but breakages in the semi autos,especially the earlier models are well known.if you do not know much about shotguns, a miroku u/o is a very strongly built gun with a proven design. as far as semi auto's go i have never shot with a fabarm,i have had a look at them and my impression was because of the design they had a lot of parts that could give trouble,i do not know if that holds true.my advice would be play safe and go with a gun that hold resale value- ie miroku/browning ,there are other very good guns/brands out there.if you don't know get someone experienced to help you.ie. someone who has owned and shot a number of guns.

Thanks for the replies everyone. I have previously had a bit of a look online at the Stoegers thats @Banana said and they don't seem too bad at all. Of course you can find bad shit about anything online, if you want to find it. Have not looked at heaps so happy with all suggestions. Had to google the choke numbers but understand (now) what the 1/2 and 1/4 chokes are. Cheers

HI Fabarms are good guns i have 2 and two of my crew have them as well none have given any trouble at all which is more than i can say for the two remijams in the crew i had a moss 930 ok gun but heavey to lug around, franchi would be a good choice as well a 712 raptor is a great semi if you can find one ,browning silver hunter is another good well made gun these may all be a little out of your price range but if your not in a hurry keep your eyes out .the turk guns seem to be getting better all the time now some of the early offerings were a bit hit and miss i have 6 turks and only one [an o/u] has had any issues so your money will get you a new one of those,that said i think as a one shottie person get a tidy b or f gun if going down the semi auto way and dont forget about o/u ers or s/s there are some very good guns around at the moment [you know where ] some down right cheap and are good seviceable guns you dont have to have a machine gun to get game and a dble just feels right, so just because your mate needs 7 shots to make up for a little apendge you dont try and handle a few and see what feels right if you are unsure what is a good buy or not just ask

If you do go down the Stoeger path there is a screw on the side of the action that holds the ejector that comes loose a falls out along with the ejector. Easy fix is a bit of loctite from new.

IM a little edgey on stoeger,s i dont own one but know of 2 that are real good and 1 that always doing something wrong i have shot them and i feel they are a little unrefined compared to say an h4[i think the h4 fabarm is a real sleeper in the semi stakes ]also be carefull about advice from sales staff some dont know shit eg [YOU CARNT KILL DUCKS WITH A 20 GUAGE ] or[THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A 28GUAGE SHELL ]or a real classic and i actully called this muppet a f.....wit and he should not be allowed to breed when he informed me that[REALLY THE SIDE BY SIDE IS FOR OLD PEOPLE] he also happlie told me he was in charge of the gun dept so be carefull