Metal flakes cleaning barrel...and clean load?

My new Beretta 694 is a pig to clean. I thought the chrome lining was coming off!! Required drill and brass brush to sort it with CRC and Hoppes.

It occurs in the first 3rd of the barrel...forcing cones. I found an article where someone else with steelium plus barrel had same problem. It produces a shiny metal flake or crumble. They are soft and will leave a silver smear on fingers.

Apparently due to the forcing cones and effect on the lead shot. Not had this issue so profoundly in other Berettas I have/had but they shot mainly steel except for the SV10.

Shooting Falcon Blue. May need to try a cleaner load??
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A cleaner load? Surely the flakes are from the lead shot?


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Yes you're right...hmm. Above barrel shot is after brass brush...they always look bad but this is next level. It eventually cleans up well... have ordered a new brush too. And next time will clean with skeet chokes in to avoid crap keeping into choke threads.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...647b038a52.jpg

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is there a sharp edge on the forcing cone thats shaving the lead

The shot should be contained within the petals of the wad, the shot shouldn't contact the barrel unless the wad is too short for the charge

Ok...mystery solved. My father in law shot a round of skeet with the 694 and he has changed to cupless shot which I hadn't heard of.

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That'd do it alright.

holy crap why woud you use cupless shot for anything.

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Originally Posted by gsp follower

holy crap why woud you use cupless shot for anything.

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faster spread for skeet I guess

Yes thats it @mikee as they are only rated for 25 yards...

I have a Clymer 12 gauge long forcing cone reamer if anyone wants to ease them out

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Thought I new a fair bit about iron and steel but steelium? WTF is that? Sounds like marketing BS to me.

I think it is, noticed no difference with my 30yo SKB barrels in terms of the steel.

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I think it is, noticed no difference with my 30yo SKB barrels in terms of the steel.

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So still consistently missing?


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At least I'm consistent...

I'm not sure but apparently they have much more recoil.

Recoil wo'nt be more, just a shorter sharper pulse.

I'm probably late to the party, but if you wanna burn up that cupless shot, these Proshot Tornado brushes strip leading out fast and and last ages.

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ok so now you know why...buy a turkshead cleaning brush....and no I DONT GIVE A SHIT IF THATS UN PC its what they called...the wireloops out and around to form a spiral pattern than scraped inside of barrel with flat of wire..... used to be a common thing ,maybe hangover from black powder days,they work very well and very fast to remove crap from barrel....

Sounds like that's what those pro-shot things are - mine have the loops scraping, rather than bristles. They're great for leaded up rifles too.

yip...very similar...yours will be new version...Ive got one with steel wire just like it and another where the bristles are thinner like a wire brush and twirl around but dont go back to centre...they sure work well.

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holy crap why woud you use cupless shot for anything.

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Look at the old fiber wad loads they had no shot cup

I used some fibre wad eley at a simulated field shoot over the weekend, its definitely snappier in recoil, sounds quite different and produces a haze of fluff compared to plastic wad ammunition. 100 target course of fire so i used 125 rounds. There was a bit of leading but way less than the op had so the shot may have been harder.
Fibre wad seems to be coming back as people are becoming concerned about plastic in the environment so i suspect we will see more of it. I have no problem with lead shot in direct contact with the bore but hate to think what steel or worse that tungsten shot will do the a barrel without a plastic jacket.