Thread: Pump Actions...What's Your Opinions?

Overcast day, so doing some homework.
Looking like a pump may be entering my safe in the near future. What's your experiences with them, the good, the bad, and the ugly.

At the moment, the Browning BPS is leading. I like how the emptys are dropped at your feet, not flicked out the side. Much tidier, easy to pickup, and better for your shooting buddies not getting hit.
Winchester is possibly in second place going by utube reviews.
Remington's 870.... 11 mil sold, so they can't be all bad, lots of aftermarket stuff, but have heard stories about being fussy with some brands not cycling/jamming.
Benelli Supernova....cycles any and everything put in it. Just look ugly, chunky and heavy. Slide rattled on the utube clip I watched. About twice the price of Remington.
I'm not going to look at the Mossberg, Maverick or any other of the cheaper ones.
Akkar..... Don't know or heard anything about them.

Having never held one, let fired one, what's your first hand experience. None of the shops I went into had any, so going in abit blind.

Same boat, wanting to buy one, although with the minimal use I forsee I'm ok with a cheap one if anyone can recommend a sub $500. Will prob just get a 2nd hand one anyway. Do wonder if pump action will still be allowed after the new law changes.

this should suffice

https://www.keltecweapons.com/firearms/shotguns/ksg/

I had a mossberg 590 for along time. Got used and abused and ran sweet.

BPS all the way
Good for left of right handed use
You can slip out the unfired cartridge without the next one feeding if you take it easy on the slide
Top tang safety where it should be
Very easy to load and unload

I have a 20 gauge 21" upland special that is lovely and light and the smaller gauge actions are scaled to cartridge size
And a 12 gauge 28" Pigeon Grade older gun. Brought for almost nothing when every one was going the auto way !

The action is very tidy and the cartridge lifter is a work of art to watch and appreciate the genius design

i got thew mrs a cheapy chinese copy of an 870 so she could shoot steel, her over/under cant.
works fine, her dad has one too and no issues. but i do suggest that before firing you remove the choke add some thread lube and refit as after awhile you will not get the choke out again. sure its no family heirloom to pass on , its plastic and steel (though some of the usa ones the chinese made are alloy) but its a rough and ready bunny/goat gun

BPS

Carry it with a cartridge in the lifter and the fore end half way back.
Every one can see it is not loaded ( from the fore end position ) and all you need to do is push the slide fully forward and release the safety ... Bang

That's how I carry it when with others as because there is no side opening your companions can't see the state of the action as per most other actions

I have a Win 1300 turkey gun that has never missed a beat over nearly 30 years. Has a smooth, fast action. I find that if I pull back slightly on the slide as I fire, the gun's recoil does the rest and the empty case whips out very easily.

Takes a little to get used to if you've always used a semi, but with practice, the end result's the same.

Originally Posted by mhoppy

...........Do wonder if pump action will still be allowed after the new law changes.

Same here. I'm thinking there's possibly going to be a hell of a rush on pumps if still allowed. Trying not to be defeatist, hoping for the best, but preparing for the worst.

Originally Posted by Max Headroom

I have a Win 1300 turkey gun that has never missed a beat over nearly 30 years. Has a smooth, fast action. I find that if I pull back slightly on the slide as I fire, the gun's recoil does the rest and the empty case whips out very easily.

Takes a little to get used to if you've always used a semi, but with practice, the end result's the same.

i had one too, was pretty good until i bent the barrel to 30 degrees in a hunting accident (also involved 2 crushed legs and 3 impacted vertebrae ) but a certain gunsmith straightened it out and it still shot fine

I would certainly give the Winchester a go.
Remingtons would be in there too. Dont be frightened of the Mossberg/mavericks. Got one and my only real drama was the two plastic lock tabs on the trigger housing broke. It can be fixed. Mine had a sticky chamber and my gunsmith mate has done some honing on it. It never did it all the time and usually after a bunch of shooting. Havent tried it since-wouldn't say they are all like that though
Always wanted a BPS back in the day, although I read an article about their timing and stuff inside. Pulling it apart is a bit of a no-no. @akaroa1 what's your thoughts on that, is it correct?

Originally Posted by gonetropo

i had one too, was pretty good until i bent the barrel to 30 degrees in a hunting accident (also involved 2 crushed legs and 3 impacted vertebrae ) but a certain gunsmith straightened it out and it still shot fine

Sounds pretty eye watering. You walking again?

Originally Posted by csmiffy

I would certainly give the Winchester a go.
Remingtons would be in there too. Dont be frightened of the Mossberg/mavericks. Got one and my only real drama was the two plastic lock tabs on the trigger housing broke. It can be fixed. Mine had a sticky chamber and my gunsmith mate has done some honing on it. It never did it all the time and usually after a bunch of shooting. Havent tried it since-wouldn't say they are all like that though
Always wanted a BPS back in the day, although I read an article about their timing and stuff inside. Pulling it apart is a bit of a no-no. @akaroa1 what's your thoughts on that, is it correct?

I've got two BPS in 16g. They aren't at all hard to pull apart (and only slightly harder to reassemble..), and are super slick in operation. No problems with crap getting in the action either, and the tang safety is the bomb.

Originally Posted by gonetropo

i got thew mrs a cheapy chinese copy of an 870 so she could shoot steel, her over/under cant.
works fine, her dad has one too and no issues. but i do suggest that before firing you remove the choke add some thread lube and refit as after awhile you will not get the choke out again. sure its no family heirloom to pass on , its plastic and steel (though some of the usa ones the chinese made are alloy) but its a rough and ready bunny/goat gun

I've had a Gun City 18" peep sight one for years. Shoots all the slugs, 3" mag shells, reloads and everything in between. Cheap as chips and never jammed or given an ounce of shit. Grab a second hand one and pump the sucker to your hearts content.

Originally Posted by berg243

i had a Mossberg combo 28inch multichoke and a 24 inch smooth slug barrel with open sights.i did eventually split the barrel end shooting 3 inch activ loads through the full choke they where 1 and 7/8 copper plated hard shot mind you I think it was my reloaded cases trying to duplicate that load that did it as they had way more recoil than factory ones only fired 8 of them the others got cut up due to excessive recoil.now only have a 410 Mossberg pump and use it for all game birds and rabbits hopefully I will be allowed to keep the mighty 410 after next week.

'tis only a brave man that would shoot an activ load 12, hell they recoiled so much with no less waterfowl dropped i gave up after a couple of split cases