Thread: Shot gun 3gun

Originally Posted by Mufasa

I know a couple of guys that changed their expensive shotguns into expensive paper weights. Most guys do the work themselves with a dremel and file, there are a few how to videos. I wanted it to look better so I had someone mill it.

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Obviously the recent Taran Tactical modded shotguns have a much deeper cut than mine. My bolt was lightened;purely to see if it could be done, I'm not good enough with a shotgun to notice the difference in cycling speed. The bolt was also modded to allow out of battery loading. Although he didn't do mine Andy W. is I think doing mods as a business (Ballistix?). You'll also note the load port opening on the latest TT shotgun is asymmetric.

What do you mean by out of battery loading? The one gripe I have with my M2 is that I can't load the mag without having one in the chamber (or the bolt closed at least). I'd love to be able to have the chamber open and visibly safe, yet the magazine loaded. Is this possible in any way? Even better if I could load the mag with the chamber open the whole time.

Originally Posted by MattyP

What do you mean by out of battery loading? The one gripe I have with my M2 is that I can't load the mag without having one in the chamber (or the bolt closed at least). I'd love to be able to have the chamber open and visibly safe, yet the magazine loaded. Is this possible in any way? Even better if I could load the mag with the chamber open the whole time.

Out of battery loading is where on the odd occasion the BCG didn't seat properly. When this happens the lifter won't rise high enough to enable you to load more rounds unless you have done the mod. Honestly it isn't that useful especially if you have an "e" cat. shotgun with an extended tube. I did it more as an academic exercise to see if it could be done locally. It should be said the same thing can be accomplished by filing down the lip of the lifter an easy an much cheaper part to replace than what I had done of milling the BCG. Again it was an academic exercise an I told the gunsmith who did it I wouldn't hold him accountable if it didn't pan out; he'd never done this sort of job before (though he is skilled and very experienced engineer/gunsmith) and I only gave him the broadest of instructions and a couple of downloaded pictures I thought he did a brilliant job.

I don't think there is a mod that gets around the lifter locking on running dry, many people have taken to using matchsaverz or the like.



With practice it is incredibly quick to flick the extra shell in though you also really should have an enlarged bolt release to make it work well.

Originally Posted by MattyP

What do you mean by out of battery loading? The one gripe I have with my M2 is that I can't load the mag without having one in the chamber (or the bolt closed at least). I'd love to be able to have the chamber open and visibly safe, yet the magazine loaded. Is this possible in any way? Even better if I could load the mag with the chamber open the whole time.

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