Thread: What do you think and where do I stand?

Originally Posted by stug

It is a different incident, happened in Nelson in 2013, not Tristan's incident.

aha!!!!! ... im an idiot , sorry

shit what a over reaction, i had cops giving my new staff member shit over a 111 call they thought he was the psycho that work for us before him they wouldnt accept he was not the guy they were after. me and @hunter308 and my dad were bombing the gong. the cops heard us discharge multiple shots my staff member said thats my boss go see him if you dont believe me, to which they didnt bother said no we on a 111 call. i guess if its in the to hard basket they cant be fucked.

I talked to my AO just before Christmas regarding shooting targets around home, he just said to tell my neighbours what I'm doing and I will be fine. I also asked if I should ring the local cop shop and tell them what I would be doing, he said not to bother. Originally I thought this was great but the more I thought about it, it isn't my neighbours that would concern me it's the people that drive, walk, bike past that might make the phone call, then where would I stand? I would shit myself if the armed offenders turned up.
I think the rule "to frighten or annoy" should be amended? eg; the non-hunter going for a walk with his kids on DOC land, hears gun shoots which "frightened" him, even thou he is in an area where hunting is allowed.

This whole thread should be in the Firearms Safety topic?

Jeeze tristan that sux!! I just put the range finder on my closest neighbour and they are 125yard away we have gunfire up here on our hill daily.

Originally Posted by Dundee

Jeeze tristan that sux!! I just put the range finder on my closest neighbour and they are 125yard away we have gunfire up here on our hill daily.

You're parents house doesnt count

My understanding is that there is no "set" distance involved. Only a matter of whether it (shots) cause nuisance or fear.

Originally Posted by Pengy

My understanding is that there is no "set" distance involved. Only a matter of whether it (shots) cause nuisance or fear.

I which it was the same rules for boy racers

Originally Posted by Frosty

You're parents house doesnt count

Shit I haven't even ranged their house,but they are deaf already

He was so happy, he carried the bunny all the way back to the Farmhouse to show everyone!

Originally Posted by grunzter

He was so happy, he carried the bunny all the way back to the Farmhouse to show everyone!

Ha ha gruntzer wrong thread

Originally Posted by hamsav

Post 13 , line 4 , 4th word in........ there,s your answer, BITCH PIG, never met one that didn't wish she had a dick, the fact that she asked if you had a secure lock up in your vehicle when she knows you are NOT required to have one just goes to show the real attitude (bad day? maybe her husband ran off with her girlfriend ). Did any of them point a gun at you ?...especially if you were not holding a gun . As I understand it the Ruby bay incident , the shooters , after being contacted by the police on the cell ph . walked , un armed to meet the police at the gateway to the property , where at least one officer aimed a gun at the group, even tho they were obviously un armed ( and had explained on the ph that they would be un armed ).... why is it that these police were not charged with presenting a firearm in a threatening manner
I would defiantly be making an official complaint

Different rules for them ! Like the cop who shot the next doors dog with an arrow to " scare him away " no charges wtf ! Was cruelty for a start ! .
I'd love to see the footage of the cop who let rip at a rotty running down a foot path in a suburban st , not only was it shit shooting but fucken dangerous to any public . Bet he never got charged over that incident .

Originally Posted by stug

Discharging firearm, airgun, pistol, or restricted weapon in or near dwellinghouse or public place
Every person commits an offence and is liable on conviction to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 3 months or to a fine not exceeding $3,000 or to both who, without reasonable cause, discharges a firearm, airgun, pistol, or restricted weapon in or near—
(a)a dwellinghouse; or
(b)a public place,—
so as to endanger property or to endanger, annoy, or frighten any person.

I'm no lawyer, but if I were charged with this offence, my defense would be that clay target shooting, pest control, zeroing, load testing, etc IS a reasonable cause to discharge a firearm, negating the fact that it may have annoyed of frightened the complainant.

There will be tons of legal precedent on what "reasonable cause" means in these circumstances.
It may or may not support your view. A one off, new, and home spun defence would be unlikely to win the day.

Some of this sexist anti cop shit on here is a bit over the top.

Originally Posted by Tahr

There will be tons of legal precedent on what "reasonable cause" means in these circumstances.
It may or may not support your view. A one off, new, and home spun defence would be unlikely to win the day.

Some of this sexist anti cop shit on here is a bit over the top.

More than a bit over the top the sexist vomit that someone spewed out

Thanks Tahr, definitely agree with you.

As far as "charges" - you weren't arrested. No charge (so far)! Happy days.

If they took your firearms from you, I would imagine you would have at least been given a Pol268 and the firearm would be either taken under "exhibit" or "for safekeeping" (probably the first one) under search and seizer act or something like that. It says it on the top and you will have been given one of the carbon copies. It's my understanding that only that act needs to be used to take anything off you. It's up to the individual member of Police and their supervisor to confirm that the criteria of that act have been met before seizing the item. This includes your FAL card.

That's just it - they took your card. You still hold a FAL so you could buy stuff online I guess using your FAL number and someone who didn't bother checking your photo to face on your FAL card. Just because the card is seized, doesn't mean that your licence has been revoked. It is very difficult to revoke a persons licence - if that ever happens, you would know about it. You'd be getting much more than a verbal warning, no doubt you could fill of a filing cabinet with the paperwork you'd receive. If that ever happened. It was difficult enough for Police to revoke that NZDA member's licence after he shot a guy in the head...but that's a different story.

How's this going now anyway? I've only just read the thread and also haven't read any of the stuff articles. In my experience, stuff is full of shit, especially when Police are involved in the "report".