Thread: YALDIZ SINGLE SHOT .410 - LIFESTYLE BLOCK

Thinking I need a .410 to deal with pests and fun, currently using a .22 but new houses springing up all around me, have to be careful where shooting re back drop etc. My thoughts that the .410 would be ideal, a shortish range , less chance of ricochets. I have looked at the yaldiz single shot. Anyone have a review on these or any other brand I should look at. what sort of practicable range, best ammo? Don't want to spend mega bucks.

too loud

Originally Posted by gonetropo

too loud

https://www.gunworks.co.nz/shop/item...e-shot-shotgun

I have one, fun wee gun and nice to use. But way too loud for my lifestyle block.

Only too loud if have iffy neighbours. @Fssprecision does suppressed version,might be just the ducks nuts. Or air rifle along with its suckyness. With .410 you really want 3" shell with #4 shot .Winchester,gamebore and fiochil are the pick of them as have 11/16th Oz payload. The Winchester 2 1/2" with half Oz isn't too bad either. You need to check payload as some shells are pityful.and you need to pattern at 25 yards to see what's great n what sucks.

Big thing with 410 is ammo is dearer than uranium. 25-35 a box of 25 for hunting ammo. I have a pump action 410 and it's a great wee gun.
Pity the non toxic shot has buggered it for a kids/grandkids duck gun

Cheaper than shit to reload it though bud...

I had Yaldiz 410 awhile back .Darren [FSS] fully suppressed it but now use the Rossi Monty suppressed with a choke to control the pattern vs shot size
the Rossi is easier to load[break open ] as you have a hammer to cock or un cock as you wish .Great when you teach the G.Kids as you can see if the hammers pulled back
Un suppressed shotties are not to bad in the day but at night they seem louder hahaa
That why we use the Darren specials . Reloading is fun , its a pity Tungsten super shot is so pricey as with this stuff your range is improved a lot
# 4 is good on possums
Cheers

But it’s cheap to reload, especially using .444 brass,

A forum quote I found recently 3in vs 2 1/2 in shells

"In terms of pattern percentage, I'm sure that the 2.5 inch shell does a better job than the 3 inch shell. The very long shot column of the 2.5 inch shell is even longer with the 3 inch shell (meaning more deformation of the lower tiers of shot due to setback forces), and neither has a proper wad, just a shot cup. In addition, many of the shot cups in the 3 inch shells don't protect the entire length of the shot column, leaving the top portion of the shot column more vulnerable to bore scrub. Thus, with the 3 inch shell, there is more chance for shot deformation and fliers. But.....with a 2.5 inch shell, you have a 1/2 oz of shot, while the 3 inch shells have 11/16 oz or 38% more shot. I think you would probably still retain more shot in the effective pattern area with the 3 inch shell than you would with the 2.5 inch shell. Neither loading, in my opinion is good for more than about 30 to 35 yds. I've hunted doves and game farm pheasants with 410's and it is a great deal of fun as long as you respect its limitations.
I would suggest that you buy one box each of 2.5" and 3" shells, then shoot some patterns (on a large sheet of paper or cardboard) at 25 yds and judge for yourself!"

Originally Posted by Scouterkotare

But it’s cheap to reload, especially using .444 brass,

Even cheaper with the blown out .303��

Originally Posted by omark

Even cheaper with the blown out .303��

I've never really got them to blow out properly especially the last third. What's your secret. My best were annealed then run a 9.3 sizing button through 40 grains of 2 f and a tight packed wad of paper towel. I'd like to have another go as I've got heaps of spare 303

I have Rossi for sale. It's been replaced with a FSS suppressed 410. I wasn't worried so much about the neighbours as they know I shoot the possums but more about the dogs hearing.
https://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co....-410-a-109629/
I will be coming down to Auckland sometime in the new year.

I'm curious why you would bother? Why not just use plastic 410 cases?

Originally Posted by Marty Henry

I've never really got them to blow out properly especially the last third. What's your secret. My best were annealed then run a 9.3 sizing button through 40 grains of 2 f and a tight packed wad of paper towel. I'd like to have another go as I've got heaps of spare 303

The secret is firing them vertically. Fast pistol powder like Red dot or bullseye and couscous or similar packed in with toilet paper. It seems to avoid balloon head or side bulges.