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They are not the wireless equivilent of a rolled up news paper.

I have 2 we use for our dogs but the Zap part has plastic knobs fitted in place of the zappers. We use em to call the dogs back as they can emit a beep which the dogs know means come back to us. Also means we can find them in the dark out walking in the winter, (we never ever walk them in town, ever) Saves shouting as our lot like to roam when we are out walking and they have 1 mile range.
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Originally Posted by mikee

They are not the wireless equivilent of a rolled up news paper.

I have 2 we use for our dogs but the Zap part has plastic knobs fitted in place of the zappers. We use em to call the dogs back as they can emit a beep which the dogs know means come back to us. Also means we can find them in the dark out walking in the winter, (we never ever walk them in town, ever) Saves shouting as our lot like to roam when we are out walking and they have 1 mile range.
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Your poor dogs, imagine if you spent some time learning to communicate with them....???? No stoning is required, but maybe you should have some empathy and care for your dogs, of course if you don;t give a shit about them then your current course is perfect.

Shouting at dogs to get them back... that will never work, if they leave their "pack" they only return when they don;t know where it is... keep shouting, they know where you are and keep doing what they're doing... if you think they think like us, you have missed the basic fundamental of dog ownership... understanding you have a dog, not a four legged furry person... of course an easy solution for you is the collar... but that leaves you dog where?

I grew up learning to train animals... they are animals, not people, you have to learn to communicate on their terms because they are not smart enough to learn to communicate on ours... when that doesn;t work for you, when you don;t have the inclination to be bothered to learn how to communicate you can always light them up... Doesn;t make you smart, makes you an (*) with a dog that shares my opinion... perhaps you could start to work on the dogs level which is realistic, rather than expecting a dog to work on yours... just saying, end of the day, I'll bet I have better behaved dogs than you, which are happier than yours and have never seen one of your shortcut devices. But hell to eacxh their own, if ignorance is bliss... be ever blissful.