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Tussock, I do not agree with you about Cesear Millan. However, I do think you are on the same track as Ruff (who I am very interested in, but unfortunately getting roared such as like your example, makes me want to not read further)

Cesear is a bit over the top and forgive me if I am wrong Ruff, but he's what you're talking about with the quick-fix, yes? He's quite a flashy, step-in handler who at the end of the 60min program has this 'perfect' dog. I quickly stopped reading the thread where I included a video of Ceasar getting bitten, so I am not entirely sure on Ruff's opinion of him.

Anyway all I can say is that when I first was interested in dog training (around age 10) I thought Ceasar was amazeballs. Since finding more information, I don't feel quite the same which is fine! It's called learning and growing up and forming an opinion.

I know I am going to get shot down and growled at for this, but here's my 24months baby experience of +R training answer to the 'ignoring bad behaviour' question.

+ Positive. Meaning, something added.
- Negative. Meaning, something taken away.
P Punishment. Something that happens to discourage behaviour being repeted
R Reinforcement. Something that happens to encourage behaviour being repeted.

+R mark and reward for sitting during a greeting. 'Reward' can be food, toy, patting, attention.
-P turn away when dog is jumping up during a greeting. Leave the room. Remove rewarding stimulous.

+P Pinch dogs ear when jumping up during a greeting.
-R Stop pinching when not jumping up.

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+R Give discounted rates to people who pay their phone bill ontime.
-P Remove discounts to late payers. Block phone usage. Block future use of that company.

+P Employ door knockers to continually bash on the door and house of those who have not paid, starting from the moment their bill was due. Bashing has to be so loud that phone cannot be used well (can't hear)
-R Once customer has paid, stop the noise.

Okay that last one was really hard to come up with, but I hope I have given good enough examples

EDIT as I am sure everyone knows by now, I only have experience/research on domestic, family dogs. I don't do hunting dogs. Also this thread was started by me and it was to give people an insight on +R training not just at home but also with working dogs. With over 2000 members is it? I am sure the majority of dog owners on this forum actually own 'pot-lickers' (such as my own dog) and not working or hunting dogs. Phew. Does that cover me for not getting sued?