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There are plenty of resources online that have loads of information on e-collar training. I have no interest in converting anyone and can't be asked to explain it all to someone who just wants to tell me I'm wrong.

Originally Posted by RCGSP

I have no interest in converting anyone and can't be asked to explain it all to someone who just wants to tell me I'm wrong.

Exactly - this is why this thread is flawed in its entirety. Both sides will never change, sticking to methods that work for them. Why would they change, or why try and convert them?

Originally Posted by Pointer

Exactly - this is why this thread is flawed in its entirety. Both sides will never change, sticking to methods that work for them. Why would they change, or why try and convert them?

Oh easy.... It's not about sides. it is about what works and what doesn't... if you analyze the thread you will see there is a "side" that gets no result, and defend that position... and then there is a side that says a result is realistic and possible... the issue is the side that wants to defend their non result as being acceptable... the reality is, given a choice, a method that works, one that even the protagonists admit doesn't work..... which one would YOU choose???

Originally Posted by Ruff

Oh easy.... It's not about sides. it is about what works and what doesn't... if you analyze the thread you will see there is a "side" that gets no result, and defend that position... and then there is a side that says a result is realistic and possible... the issue is the side that wants to defend their non result as being acceptable... the reality is, given a choice, a method that works, one that even the protagonists admit doesn't work..... which one would YOU choose???

No one said they aren't getting results. In fact you could say they have to be getting results to the standard each individual requires, otherwise they would adapt their methods?

Originally Posted by Pointer

No one said they aren't getting results. In fact you could say they have to be getting results to the standard each individual requires, otherwise they would adapt their methods?

The point being, the result they get, the lower standard they Willow accept when they don;t need too...

Of course, it no skin off my nose, my mind, but I cannot accept someone would want to do better and ignore better for no better reason than pedeanticniess.... whatever/.....