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    Tussock , I am going to write a book for you to believe -it will say trained dogs screw up all the time as well and only in the land of hansell and gretal and the candy house do they all run like a swiss clock --at least then you wont be at odds with what most of us tht run hunting dogs have observed .
    Most of us are part time trainers , we cannot and do not put many hours per day in as would a young police dog might get .With what we have we work with and I walk and whistle command my dog everyday -he is still willful and needs threats of chastisement to act fast to command -at times .I cooked my ex wife a big breakfast today and left the dog at the door looking at us eat..With a sausage left over I called him in and fed him and then "outya go " he understood perfectly and trotted almost out-went to sit on the carpet at the door until I casually took from my pocket his Ecollar trigger -didn't need to use it and he moved outside with haste.
    All training is good and you may do it right but your dog still may want to do something else "sometimes"
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    Quote Originally Posted by el borracho View Post
    Tussock , I am going to write a book for you to believe -it will say trained dogs screw up all the time as well and only in the land of hansell and gretal and the candy house do they all run like a swiss clock --at least then you wont be at odds with what most of us tht run hunting dogs have observed .
    Most of us are part time trainers , we cannot and do not put many hours per day in as would a young police dog might get .With what we have we work with and I walk and whistle command my dog everyday -he is still willful and needs threats of chastisement to act fast to command -at times .I cooked my ex wife a big breakfast today and left the dog at the door looking at us eat..With a sausage left over I called him in and fed him and then "outya go " he understood perfectly and trotted almost out-went to sit on the carpet at the door until I casually took from my pocket his Ecollar trigger -didn't need to use it and he moved outside with haste.
    All training is good and you may do it right but your dog still may want to do something else "sometimes"
    Goodness me, El B, is that intimidation or what...I do not want a dog to behave like a beaten cur or to piddle in an anxiety attack everytime I open their kennel door...I want my dogs to be happy rounded natures who are permitted to exercise the wonderful prey drive they have and to be my companions and hunting partners...and I would be the first to admit that my dogs have taught me more about hunting and their breed capabilities and expertise than ANY GODDAM BOOK EVER WRITTEN or about to be penned...
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    Quote Originally Posted by EeeBees View Post
    Goodness me, El B, is that intimidation or what...I do not want a dog to behave like a beaten cur or to piddle in an anxiety attack everytime I open their kennel door...I want my dogs to be happy rounded natures who are permitted to exercise the wonderful prey drive they have and to be my companions and hunting partners...and I would be the first to admit that my dogs have taught me more about hunting and their breed capabilities and expertise than ANY GODDAM BOOK EVER WRITTEN or about to be penned...
    EeeBees;i dont get your drift ,in fact often I dont as its like reading the news-mole hill turns to mountain.please read with "understanding''
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    Quote Originally Posted by el borracho View Post
    EeeBees;i dont get your drift ,in fact often I dont as its like reading the news-mole hill turns to mountain.please read with "understanding''
    I beg your pardon?!!! if you only need to show your dog the switch mechanism of an e-collar and he does an instanteous rendition of Pavlov's bell response, then cripes...what have you done to him????


    Please let me know if this makes sense...
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    [QUOTE=EeeBees;80511]I beg your pardon?!!! if you only need to show your dog the switch mechanism of an e-collar and he does an instanteous rendition of Pavlov's bell response, then cripes...what have you done to him????


    Please let me know if this makes sense...[/QUOTE

    my dog is smart - he has eyes and a brain and discern what the pack leader has in his hand -pretty simple .Your veiw is still so like the media MOLE HILL TO MOUNTAIN -just because my dog recognizes something makes him abused it appears in your opinion .take a chillax pill
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    No El B, I just think your response to the dog was a bit over the top, actually...but hey, I am just a peasant who knows jack nothing about dogs...there you go...are you happy with that...


    oh and about this pack leader bollocks...get this...him DOG you HUMAN...there is no pack in it...when people put themselves up as the pack leader or Alpha male/female you put yourself at DOG level...and we HUMANS are not DOGS...well, I am probably being a bit of bitch right now, but I am going in a minute or two to take my DOGS to the river for a swim...
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    Quote Originally Posted by EeeBees View Post
    No El B, I just think your response to the dog was a bit over the top, actually...but hey, I am just a peasant who knows jack nothing about dogs...there you go...
    Ill send him a good cotton wool telling off next time just for you Victoria!lol
    Here is the said abused animal next to his bosses bed where he sleeps in the bosses kennel -soooo abused
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