Thread: Bracco Italiano

Is anyone running this breed for hunting? What do you think of them?
Very curious about them.

Not sure about the Italiano, but we have a Barcco a Lotto on the farm and he's is a nice enough dog if you don't mind the noise.

one of these??

nice looking hound
@Shearer We have a pointer who should have been named "Sir Barksalot"

Originally Posted by mikee

one of these??
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nice looking hound
@Shearer We have a pointer who should have been named "Sir Barksalot"

Yep one of those!

slobber merchants.
something a bit different that for sure.....a member from this forum has one.

Originally Posted by kawhia

slobber merchants.
something a bit different that for sure.....a member from this forum has one.

Hopefully they see this post then. Ive been talking to the breeder but dont want one this year and not sure about the breed!

@te_ferrari has one. Not many around

I had the pleasure and opportunity to witness @teFerrarri working her Bracco over an Opening Day week ... the word that springs to my mind is 'majestic' ... we were in paddocks of chou and swedes ... my little Breton may well have been in a kauri forest, the chou being so tall ... @Malhunting, I am sure teFarrarri would only be more than happy to discuss the breed with you ... I have a lovely foto of him, but cannot download it as the host cannot be found ... dang ...

More than happy to discuss the breed and for anyone interested to meet Samson. Now im nearly fit again theres an opportunity for a walk with the gun too. Great companions and my boy is certainly a keen hunter, but they are a demanding breed, not suitable as kennel dogs as they do not tolerate separation well. Ideal as a family dog with regular company and a firm but fair hand as they can be very headstrong and stubborn.....even to their own detriment.
Samson produces feather and furred game for the gun, has accounted for deer on the hoof and tracked a wounded stag we found had been shot which had died some distance away.

I have a mate in Europe who has them, he really rates them. Once again, get working blood, most of what you will find here will be show blood and while they will hunt they will be bloody hard yakka to train. Let me know if you want an intro to my mate, if you're serious about one you will do so much better to import a proper one than a import here of a show dog dressed up to go hunting.

I love the European system where there is no prejudice of a working dog being in the ring ... he has to get an Excellent rating in the show ring to gain his Trialler status ... no matter how brilliant he is in the field ... which keeps the conformation, the allure both correct for the breed.

Originally Posted by EeeBees

I love the European system where there is no prejudice of a working dog being in the ring ... he has to get an Excellent rating in the show ring to gain his Trialler status ... no matter how brilliant he is in the field ... which keeps the conformation, the allure both correct for the breed.

If the same policy was adopted heree our true gundog breeds would be screwed.

Originally Posted by Ruff

If the same policy was adopted heree our true gundog breeds would be screwed.

Why is that?

Originally Posted by EeeBees

Why is that?

Put as simply as I can. Showing tests for nothing. The judges are often devoid of knowledge of the breed so instead rely on a written breed standard which can be "interpreted", if it is "interpreted" by someone who has no knowledge of the use of the dog and the expectations of it, it quickly becomes scewed, but they still judge a "winner". Other breeders, who also do not hunt, look to what made a judge make a decision and breed for that quality, it has nothing to do with hunting, nothing to do with dog purpose, it only has to do with how a fat woman interpreted a written description of a dog. OK saying a "Fat woman" was wrong, it is also likely to be a very cute gay little man. NOTHING that happens in the show ring has any possible positive outcome for a working dog.. none, never, zilch and anyone who claims it does is delusional and full of shit and playing games with dogs. Some of us have more respect for our chosen breeds and their purpose and how to ensure they do not go backwards as to subject to them to this crap. It is why when I encounter ANYONE who tries to show an actual outcome from showing a dog I get pissed off and know I am dealing with one of several things. 1. people who know the game is bullshit but their ego denies the facts and just take the ribbons. 2. People who are not bright enough to work out what they have been told about shows is not real. 3. Complete Idiots.

No dog has EVER been improved by a breed standard or show ring. We do not judge the Melbourne Cup by having the horses parade in the birdcage and have an obese person pick the prettiest... there is a requirement of performance, and sometimes the ugliest bastard wins because it is the best.

This is a gundog forum, that makes it diametrically opposed to ANYTHING to do with show dogs. Mentioning show dogs in here is like mentioning porch chop recipes in a synagogue!

No Gundog, in fact NO DOG, ever had it's confirmation improved as a result of showing... ever and I hereby publicly challenge you to show one single instance.

Originally Posted by Ruff

This is a gundog forum, that makes it diametrically opposed to ANYTHING to do with show dogs. Mentioning show dogs in here is like mentioning porch chop recipes in a synagogue!

The revised breed standards of the NZKC, taken from the UK, are indeed bereft in construction unlike the previous breed standards ... the only way to make any sense of a breed standard is to have the one from which the country of origin abides to ...

If anyone breeding purebred dogs cannot at least skim through a breed standard from the country of origin then to my mind they are the very ones to wreck a breed ... and if you cannot get a dog that is at least correct to its breed standard (considering the cost of a pup) it is simply not good enough ... this is my opinion and I am sticking to it ...!!