Thread: Disrespecting the Pheasant

A massive can of worms here, the ethics of hunting.

Is driven shooting the same? Those guys shoot more pheasant in a weekend than what you and I do in a year. A celebration of marksmanship, nothing more?

So many interesting points in this discussion, Bill999 has some valid points. When they are rare and hard worked for, they are precious. When they are like they are here in the BOP, a brace under every bush , They do lose that value. Beautiful nonetheless, but common. The excitement they provide in sport is of more value than their presence, if that makes sense?

Which brings me to the next point, who are we to judge one mans idea of sport? He obviously derives pleasure from it, and good on him too. At least he is not breaking any laws, or taking advantage of others to do so. By you being more selective and focusing on your dogs work, are you (we?) better than him? Many people shoot pheasant with out dogs, or just a lab at heel to pull them out of thick cover or water they fall into. Are they worse than you because the dog work is poor?

Originally Posted by Pointer

A massive can of worms here, the ethics of hunting.

Is driven shooting the same? Those guys shoot more pheasant in a weekend than what you and I do in a year. A celebration of marksmanship, nothing more?

So many interesting points in this discussion, Bill999 has some valid points. When they are rare and hard worked for, they are precious. When they are like they are here in the BOP, a brace under every bush , They do lose that value. Beautiful nonetheless, but common. The excitement they provide in sport is of more value than their presence, if that makes sense?

Which brings me to the next point, who are we to judge one mans idea of sport? He obviously derives pleasure from it, and good on him too. At least he is not breaking any laws, or taking advantage of others to do so. By you being more selective and focusing on your dogs work, are you (we?) better than him? Many people shoot pheasant with out dogs, or just a lab at heel to pull them out of thick cover or water they fall into. Are they worse than you because the dog work is poor?

I think we do have a "breaking the law" issue here! On a pheasant preserve you can shoot unlimited hens and cocks. Outside a preserve fence there are rules. No hens and a limit on cocks. Pheasants can only be controlled as pests if they are proven to be causing financial ruin to crops?? Certainly not the case here?

No one mentioned any breaches of the Game regs?

Originally Posted by redhot

I think we do have a "breaking the law" issue here! On a pheasant preserve you can shoot unlimited hens and cocks. Outside a preserve fence there are rules. No hens and a limit on cocks. Pheasants can only be controlled as pests if they are proven to be causing financial ruin to crops?? Certainly not the case here?

Lost me

Originally Posted by redhot

I think we do have a "breaking the law" issue here! On a pheasant preserve you can shoot unlimited hens and cocks. Outside a preserve fence there are rules. No hens and a limit on cocks. Pheasants can only be controlled as pests if they are proven to be causing financial ruin to crops?? Certainly not the case here?

How can u back up this post if you wernt there and didnt see anything. Saying you know the location and that you did the maths means fuck all. I know the location and the maths adds up.

Originally Posted by redhot

On a pheasant preserve you can shoot unlimited hens and cocks.

Well, actually no...the guns will settle on a number, say 150 birds for the day, then divvy the cost between them. You certainly do not shoot unlimited birds on a drive.

Originally Posted by Pointer

Is driven shooting the same? Those guys shoot more pheasant in a weekend than what you and I do in a year. A celebration of marksmanship, nothing more?

As a beater I saw some very bad shooting from some guns...